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Vastnest of white

By Yebach
A hike to an alpine valley. I wanted to capture the size aNd vastnest of the valley compared to a person.

Tags: Snow Mountains Valley Blue sky Landscape and travel

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dudler Plus
17 1.6k 1859 England
18 Feb 2021 9:31PM
That's worked well, Vid.

Compositionally, it would be good to see the sun inside the frame, but in terms of lens flare, keeping it on the edge is the right thing to do.

I'm concerned that you shot in Program mode: you need control, and that mode gives it all to the camera. I'd have chosen a slightly smaller aperture (maybe f/8) and let the shutter speed drop a little. Even if you were shivering with cold, 1/500 is fast enough with image stabilisation.

You might want to let a little more light in the shadows in processing, so some detail is visible...
dark_lord Plus
17 2.8k 776 England
18 Feb 2021 10:39PM
I think you have captured the vastness. Without the figure (or other subject of known proportions) it would still be a nice scene but without the same sense of scale.

However, a few processing tweaks will make the most of the capture.
While deep shadows can add mood, they don't have the same effec in afternon sun high in the sky. I opened up the shadows using the Shadows/Highlights tool followed by more adjustment using a feathered selection of the trees with a Curves adjustmnet to boost brightness and contrast. A little warming was applied.
A little more warming was applied tothe whole image overall.
Seeing the shadow detail and the trees more clearly helps with that feeling of vastness as it adds to the depth in the image.

My second mod places the peron to the kleft so the viewers eye goes there first and can explore the vastness of the rest of the image. The central placement takes the viewer right to the centre of the image and without shadow detail rather leaves them there.

Progam mode has got you a result but you need to start making creative decisions yourself.
mrswoolybill Plus
14 2.8k 2420 United Kingdom
19 Feb 2021 8:37AM
Just to add to the abobe:

The Exif indicates that you shot in Raw. What processing have you applied? There's a strong blue cast and I don't think that it's all down to the reflection of the blue sky.
capto Plus
9 6.7k 25 United Kingdom
19 Feb 2021 8:49AM
Excellent advice above. It's a wonderful scene which I will never experience for real. I hope you forgive my mod as I enjoyed adding a little 'artistic' addition to it.
pamelajean Plus
15 1.6k 2224 United Kingdom
19 Feb 2021 12:29PM
Hello again, Vid.

This really takes me there, and the vastness does come across in this image, especially with the skier figure in it. As to the re-positioning of the skier by Keith, I was surprised to see how much difference this makes. For me, the skier is now looking towards the furtherance of the tracks and the viewer therefore follows the skier's gaze, and this, as well as removing the figure from the centre, leaves the eye to move into the scene and explore beyond the figure.

Your snow on the ground is a bit grey. In my modification I sought to whiten it. It's a bright sunny day and I think this better portrays that. I used Keith's modification to do my own. I cropped some off the left side, which places the skier in the bottom left third of the frame, then I brightened the image more and lifted the shadows a bit more, too. A very small Levels adjustment was also applied.


banehawi Plus
17 2.5k 4247 Canada
19 Feb 2021 6:17PM
Its a lovely scene Vid.

For me, this would show sense of scale better if the figure was further from the lens, and smaller, as in my mod 7.

Ive also rotated a little, brightened, and its slightly warmer, less so on the ground.


chase Plus
15 2.2k 566 England
19 Feb 2021 6:22PM
Hi Vid,
This is a splendid scene and the tiny skier does add the scale you wanted.

Perhaps little dark around the tree line and there is a small dark triangle very top right which I suspect is a left over bit of vignetting from your lens.
The skier is much better placed towards the left side of the frame for me too.

I did do a mod.
Brightened the whites of the snow and warmed the scene up a touch using the Camera Raw filter.
Moved the skier to the left.
Removed the small dark triangle top right with the clone tool.
Lightened up the tree line using a levels layer and a selective mask.
Yebach 5 Slovenia
19 Feb 2021 6:47PM
Thank you for all the comments and mods. I didn't want to use photoshop to move the person around.... i was using Manual mode not sure why P imode is in exif.

Btw you ars all welcome to join me in the valley. Some night photos would be awesome Smile

chase Plus
15 2.2k 566 England
19 Feb 2021 6:50PM

Quote:Btw you ars all welcome to join me in the valley. Some night photos would be awesome

I am on my way Wink Wink

Thanks for coming back to us Vid, the central position is not drastic and the skier is stood on the ski line admiring such a breath taking view.
mrswoolybill Plus
14 2.8k 2420 United Kingdom
19 Feb 2021 9:42PM
I've uploaded a modification. I cropped keeping you aspect ratio but placing the figure on the left third so that he is inviting us into the valley rather than blocking it. Colour warmed, blues toned down, shadows lifted, that's about all. It works better for me.

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