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Waiting for a fly

By Timppa
This is same spider as the last photo I send here. I like the colors of this photo. What I do not like is that the flower looks dirty. I'm waiting for your comments from the shapening. The tips of the legs are not very shap and the middle part of the spider might be too shap it looks a bit raunchy.

Tags: Spider Flower Close-up and macro

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dark_lord Plus
18 3.0k 826 England
17 Aug 2022 9:49PM
Hi Timo ,

This is more engaging for the viewer and so more interesting as a result.
The flower stands out well against the background. Your previous oimage had the flower merge into the bacvkground colouir, and while there's nothing wrong with that as such, it's nice to see the flower stand out.
The spider has a greater sense of action eith its positioning and stance. The spider is very well framed by the flower and ou were on the same level so that nakes for a strong image.

I wouldn't worry about the tips of the legs, because you won't get an aperture small enough to give sufficient depth of field to cover the body and legs, at that close range. Focus stacking is a technique you could use but is tricky if the subject moves appreciably.
The headis sharper but the eyes are still soft, and it's the eyes you need to consider in both human and animal portraits as that's where he viewer first looks first, in many cases, and expects to see them sharp.

The colour looks fine to me. Perhaps it's the shadow areas that make it look dirty?
mrswoolybill Plus
15 3.4k 2547 United Kingdom
18 Aug 2022 8:01AM
I arrived late for yesterday's and everything had been said. But I very much prefer this, it has a sense of stability, balance, I can see what is going on. That is quite important - if your photography is for anyone apart from yourself, it needs to communicate.

Like Keith, I have no worries about tips of legs being a bit soft, the focus is where it needs to be, on the head. If the 'face' is in focus, everything else flows from there, with any living creature. Whether that looks raunchy is in the eye of the beholder... Wink

The one thing that niggles me is the detached bit of petal bottom right. Cropping it off places the spider lower in the frame, so the centre of gravity in the image is more comfortable for the viewer's eye - see my mod. I also converted to sRGB, which may improve the appearance of colour.
dudler Plus
19 1.9k 1954 England
18 Aug 2022 8:26AM
I agree with Keith and Moira, Timo. This is an easier picture to read and therefore to enjoy. It may be a less clever concept, but it works better, I think.

The flower looks real, rather than being too perfect - does that make sense?
banehawi Plus
18 2.8k 4323 Canada
18 Aug 2022 1:00PM
Much better, I agree with dark_lord.

I uploaded a mod with a little sharpening, slightly warmer tone, and a 3:2 crop.

chase Plus
17 2.4k 644 England
18 Aug 2022 1:12PM
This is a better POV as far as the Spider and the viewer are concerned.
Focus slightly lacking right on the eyes.
I like Moiras crop which removes that rogue petal and Willie has brightened things up, which looks better.
As I have said before, flower petals can be really reflective and you have a green bg, that may be the cause of what you consider to be "dirty".
I do like the sense of action that your composition brings, the Spider is looking straight out of the frame.
pamelajean Plus
16 1.8k 2270 United Kingdom
18 Aug 2022 5:26PM
Hello again, Timo.

This looks fine to me, a lot better than your previous image. I realise you were wanting to show the spider nearly fall off the flower, creating a bit of a story for the image, but this one is better because of the better positioning of the spider and, of course, the completely green background.

The stray petal bottom-right is better removed, and I agree with Keith about the shadow areas of the petals making the flower look "dirty".

You have done well.

Timppa 7 Finland
18 Aug 2022 7:01PM
Thaks for everybody. I appresiate your comments.
The dirt on a flower I mean the spider webs hanging all over and there is some reddis particels backside of the spider. To clean all out is too much work. And if I do it it may look like made on kitcen table. I stat to think that the webs and particles belong were they are, no need to remove. The color of the image is an other issue. The warmer tone looks better, it remove the blue from the upper part of the spider and the yellow color looks more as it is in real.
I add new modification where I shapen the eyes and upper face of the spider, and crupped the photo.

dark_lord Plus
18 3.0k 826 England
18 Aug 2022 8:56PM
I like your mod.

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