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Two cracking captures, Barbara, very well composed and taken. Can't help with taking fast action shots as I have trouble myself.
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andylea 7 37 1 United Kingdom
1 Apr 2010 8:19AM
two wonderful captures brilliant colours and detail i play safe landscape does not move to much nice one barbara Wink
andy
morpheus1955 9 3 2 United Kingdom
1 Apr 2010 8:27AM
Two cracking images Barbara, good composition and very nicely taken, sorry can't help you on taking moving objects Smile

Hugh
pluckyfilly Plus
9 350 33 United Kingdom
1 Apr 2010 8:32AM
you could try upping your ISO or your shutter speed I dont know which method you use for taking pics - aperture or shutter speed but either will or should work and to your shot I like both maybe the V2 should have been the main picture I dont know, see what others think
Richsr Plus
9 90 222 England
1 Apr 2010 8:55AM
Just keep practicing Barbara.
Regards Richard
brownbear 7 2 England
1 Apr 2010 9:03AM
For a good moving shot, it is usually better to take from a distance with a longer lens and pan. (obviously not possible in woodland).
I think you might have got a better view with the camera in the gap between the three trees, with the train on the curve,this would give a more head on shot and no need to pan. As plucky filly says use a higher shutter speed, when possible.
Having said all that I like V1.
gingerdelight 10 298 11 United Kingdom
1 Apr 2010 9:08AM
Two wonderful shots Barbara - great capture of the train!
Carol
mrswoolybill Plus
9 926 1462 United Kingdom
1 Apr 2010 9:15AM
V1 - much calmer!
Moira
dmhuynh72 8 44 3 United Kingdom
1 Apr 2010 9:24AM
I think the pros use fast and expensive lens which freezes movement and get sharp pictures. But this is an excellent attempt Barbara.

regards
yung
1 Apr 2010 9:32AM
Two good shots there, i love the steam engine. The easiest and quickest way for me to capture a moving subject (when i have no time to play with my settings) is to switch to the pre-set sport mode.
Ricky.
colmar 9 42 35 Scotland
1 Apr 2010 9:37AM
Two cracking images and I like them both v1 such a wonderful scene composed and captured well v2 for the attempt and the pov , a faster shutter speed, appropriate lenses and panning as mentioned above, the fact you have attempted to cature the train in the woods with those three immediately in front is not going to help but it is a good attempt and as one other says as with all images practice practice and when done practice some more Smile

Colin
1 Apr 2010 9:51AM
Love 'em Barbs. Down in the woods on a cold cold day eh? You must be mad ! helen x
CarolG Plus
9 195 18 Greece
1 Apr 2010 9:59AM
Two super captures, Barbs, I would be very pleased to capture this wonderful steam train! Carol
1 Apr 2010 10:00AM
Two great shots Barbara !

Chris
PinkK 7 80 1 United Kingdom
1 Apr 2010 10:12AM
I was half expecting to be looking for the bunny in the woods Smile
photophantom 8 108 3 Philippines
1 Apr 2010 10:29AM
Sport mode, burst mode, will give you such speed Barbs. Nice try
1 Apr 2010 10:46AM
two great shots
jj
1 Apr 2010 11:34AM
I visited here back in August 2008, and took a train ride on 'Brookes No.1' that was running at the time. I took several shots, and although these don't travel fast, managed a few out of focus! Sad Nice captures, Barbs, keep at it!
TrevB Smile
Lillian Plus
7 21 17 United Kingdom
1 Apr 2010 12:33PM

Quote:I think the pros use fast and expensive lens which freezes movement and get sharp pictures. But this is an excellent attempt Barbara.



I have to agree here, and you do need to really stand back, and again as already advised you were not able to in the woods so on the whole don't be too disapointed, as you got the shot!! I thought that you were off to find another Easter Bunny!! I have one from a distance and even that was not in focus.. two good shots though Barbara.
Lillian
PattiW 10 24 2 United States
1 Apr 2010 12:51PM
V1 is so pretty! Like the color of the sky, the curve of the train tracks and the lovely 3 trees on the right. Are they Birches? Really like the bright colors on the engine in V2 and the name of the train on the front. God bless, Patti
V1 is a great shot on its own!
Peter.
woolybill1 Plus
9 22 67 United Kingdom
1 Apr 2010 1:24PM
To add to the above - the closer the object is to the camera, the shallower the dof is going to be. Unfortunately, it will also appear to be moving faster. The need for both higher shutter speed and narrower aperture can most easily be reconciled by raising the ISO Sad

In fact, V2 is not really too far off as it is. About a stop faster ought to have sufficed. The most important single comment above is the need for practice...
Bill

By the way, colour is superb.
ade_mcfade 12 15.2k 216 England
1 Apr 2010 2:04PM
Main thing here isn't the sharpness, but the composition - one thing with lines in photos, like the lovely train line here, is that you want to try to avoid them being cut or intersected by obstructions - so here you have the main tree on the right overlapping the lines

you'd have a better shot had you stepped a little to the left, had the whole line showing uninterrupted, and the tree on the right framing the shot.

to get "sharp" shots, you're best bet is using a tripod

second best, is to get a fast shutter speed - so your ISO setting on your camera goes up and maybe the aperture down a bit.

have fun Smile
Canadiann 6 2 Canada
1 Apr 2010 2:13PM
Hope she was worth waiting for LOL. I like the shots but of course I am no photographer. I think they are ok, we can all improve though. (What's wrong with my poem LOL )
All the best and keep practising.
Regards
Ann
saeidNL 6 3 Netherlands
1 Apr 2010 2:22PM
What a wonderful set of images, all very beautiful indeed ,V1 This is really interesting and unusual and V2 I really like this with nice composition and colour in it,
saeid
imagio 9 12 1 England
1 Apr 2010 2:25PM
I always prefocus on a set point Barbara..then when the train arrives..click..

Bernie
DRicherby 7 269 725 United Kingdom
1 Apr 2010 2:25PM
According to the EXIF data, this was taken at 52mm, f/5.6, 1/40s and ISO-100. The problem is entirely the shutter speed, which wasn't fast enough to freeze the motion of the train. This is, as has been pointed out above, accentuated by the train being close to you and moving across the frame: the closer parts of the train move across several pixels in 1/40s, whereas the more distant parts of the train look sharper because they don't cross as many pixels.

Higher ISO is a must and, since the track is acceptably sharp throughout the frame, and the background fence is reasonably sharp, I think you could get away with a wider aperture, too. That said, if I'd been there, I'd have wanted to use f/8 but settled on f/5.6 as being as wide as I dared go without compromising depth of field. Given the surprising (to me) amount of DoF from f/5.6, it looks like you could probably go to f/4 or so and still have everything sharp that needs to be. A combination of f/4 and ISO-400 would have given you a shutter speed of 1/250s, which I'm sure would have stopped the motion. 1/125 (f/5.6 at ISO-400) would probably have been enough.

People have suggested using a fast lens but I don't think that would have helped. A fast lens is just one that has a wide maximum aperture — say, f/2.8 or wider. But I don't think f/2.8 would have given enough depth of field and, if you're taking the shot at f/4 or f/5.6, it doesn't matter whether your lens can be opened up to f/2.8 or f/1.4 or whatever because the shutter speed is determined by the aperture you're using, not the widest aperture the lens can manage. A fast lens stopped down to f/something is just as slow as a slow lens stopped down to the same aperture.
SlowSong Plus
7 6.2k 29 England
1 Apr 2010 3:30PM
I really like V1 as it's so unexpected, those tracks going through a wood.
Chris
1 Apr 2010 3:57PM
Good effort. I have really learnt a lot from the various responses. Sylvia
ironman 7 1
1 Apr 2010 4:30PM
I prefer the pic without the train so my eye can follow the track,but that's just me.As mentioned in other comments increasing ISO can help because it forces the camera to choose a faster shutter speed ( depending on available light ).Shutter speed should be equal to focal length,so a 50mm lens would need 1/50sec minimum or faster when hand-holding.Another method to try is to pre-focus on an object where the train passes and press the shutter just before the train reaches this point.As with anything else experimentation is the key.
DRicherby 7 269 725 United Kingdom
1 Apr 2010 4:40PM
The rule of thumb that shutter speed should be at least as fast as 1/(focal length) is to avoid camera shake but there's little evidence of camera shake in #2. You also need to include the crop factor, so, for a 50mm focal length on a Nikon APS-C body, you want a minimum of 1/75s = 1/(1.5x50). Pre-focusing can be helpful for rapidly moving subjects but I don't see any evidence of this shot being out of focus.
Oliverpants 7 2 2 England
1 Apr 2010 4:43PM
V1 for me - now there are perfect shots and then there are shots that make you want to look because they are intriqueing and have atmosphere. As others have said above about ISO and speed, and I am sure they are all correct and very knowledgeable, but this shot might loose some of its mystery and atmosphere because for me, its about looking down the track and the feeling that you know something is going to happen. V2 would be better as the perfect picture and as I'm no expert, I shall leave that to the earlier comments.
Ann
1 Apr 2010 5:31PM
V1 it has a stark end of winter look to it trees and bushes in a nad way and the rust on the tracks works with it click
jonwebber 8 4 1 United Kingdom
1 Apr 2010 5:38PM
I do like both pictures. The discussion they raised is also interesting.
jon
gerrymac 9 10 1 United Kingdom
1 Apr 2010 7:04PM
I've seen a lot worse.......100 ISO is terribly low I myself are rarely below 300 ISO.. except possibly for still life shots. Get that ISO up a bit and leave it up

Gerry
Brilane 10 5 12 Wales
1 Apr 2010 7:19PM
Nice shots.
Of course you could always stand in the track and hope that it stops...........sorry, only joking. Much safer to have your camera set to a higher ISO.
Brian :o)
Mynett 8 142 6 United Kingdom
1 Apr 2010 7:51PM
need the speed to get it sharper and uping the iso will do that or reduce the aperture however the trees in v1 have some great textures

Linda
Roly 9 Wales
1 Apr 2010 7:52PM
I do like V1.
Bob_V 8 1 2 United States
1 Apr 2010 8:10PM
Two great captures Barbara.
Bob
Dave_Holdham 7 4 1 Wales
1 Apr 2010 8:47PM
Two great shots and you seem to have attracted some great advise too. Smile
1 Apr 2010 8:58PM
But you know all that dint you? 2 lovely pics, Silver Birch are my fav tree. Gets my vote.

Jim.
stephenscott 6 8 2 United Kingdom
1 Apr 2010 9:12PM
Nice shots barbara..

Steve..
1 Apr 2010 10:38PM
Wonderful Barbara.
Tony
1 Apr 2010 11:13PM
U like both

Niels
tpics 6 2 United States
2 Apr 2010 6:10PM
good shot I like this one...wondering where the tracks leed
Suehh 9 39 6 England
2 Apr 2010 9:33PM
Lovely woodland shots - did you bump into the teddy bears? And I like the train shot - I know you don't see it as perfect but it has a feel of the pictures in the old Enid Blyton books to me - lovely texture in the train colour and I can feel the metal just looking at it. Like it lots.

Sue
astyag 9 12
3 Apr 2010 5:29PM
This is excellent, and wow some great tips by the EPZ veterans! well done Barbara
Astyag
hary60 7 2 United Kingdom
4 Apr 2010 1:32PM
Two greatshots Barb some great great tips we all can use
Harry
5 Apr 2010 8:54PM
Love it. A
Love V2, great set
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