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Warden

By Earshel    
The Milky Way rises over Crater Lake. This was taken from the Watchman Overlook, pictured on the right.

Tags: Crater lake Oregon Astro Milky way Pano Nightscape Landscape and travel Cl

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mrswoolybill Plus
14 2.9k 2457 United Kingdom
16 Jun 2015 9:11AM
Hi Earshel, welcome to ePHOTOzine, and to the Critique Gallery. I see that you have just joined, and this is your first upload. I hope you will enjoy it here and find it useful.

You have uploaded to the Critique Gallery which is where you forego the chance of votes and awards in return for more detailed critique and advice, on both the taking and processing of images. As you have joined at Semi-Pro level I wonder if this was intentional or accidental?? If you do require advice, it helps if you ask specific questions.

This is impressive and beautiful. There are accomplished night and astro-photographers on the site, it's not my area. I'm sure they will arrive here. But something that does jump out at me is that this needs a slight anti-clockwise rotation. Check out the two brightest reflections in the water, they sit a little to the left of the stars in question. Reflections always drop down vertically from their source, whatever angle they are viewed from - wide angle can distort that effect at the outer edges of a frame, but these two are at the centre.

The composition flows and progresses very satisfyingly across the frame but with that noticeable tilt. Correct that, and I think you have a better balance overall. I'll upload a modification in a few minutes for comparison - it will appear under the Modifications button below your upload, click on the thumbnail to view.
Moira
16 Jun 2015 9:31AM
Hello mrswoolybill,

Thank you for the welcome Smile. I did select the Critique Gallery by accident, but opted to leave the photo here rather than removing it and re-uploading it. It seems as though that was a good choice, as you've pointed out a very amateurish mistake in my processing. I've viewed your modification, and you're spot on with your observation and in your correction. I'm generally very conscious of the angle of the horizon while I'm shooting, but I suppose it may be something that I overlook while processing, especially panoramas. I appreciate you taking the time to point out the error and to make the modification. I've only just arrived, and you've been very helpful! Thank you for that Smile.

Regards,

Earshel
TanyaH Plus
18 1.3k 411 United Kingdom
16 Jun 2015 10:37AM
Well, that's rather impressive Grin I'm kind of glad you put in the CG by accident, otherwise I may not have seen it in the main gallery (like Moira, it's not my area but that doesn't stop me admiring something like this!).

I think the only thing I could possibly add to the observations above is that, on the extreme left of the image frame, there's a wooden post. It's bathed in a golden light, which is lovely, but it's also a tad distracting as (a) there's no corresponding post on the right hand side in order to balance it and 'contain' the rest of the image and (b) when viewed Normal (so I can see the whole of the image without having to scroll side to side) it's so small it's difficult to make out what it is.

So I'm wondering whether a minor crop from the left, to remove it, would help? (It's fine if you don't agree, by the way ... the critique gallery is also a place of meaningful dialogue!)

And a belated welcome from me, too Smile

Tanya
dark_lord Plus
17 2.8k 784 England
16 Jun 2015 7:52PM
Welcome from me too.

That is one impressive shot. I can't add any more to what Moira and Tanya have said.
I take it this is a cropped down from a full frame (your D810 has the resolution to cope) rather than a stitched panorama. I'm fine with stitching most images but I guess stitching shots of this would be trickier?
Either way good work and I'm glad you posted here as I too may have missed it in the main gallery (even though it does still appear there, it'll be surrounded by many other images).

Keith
16 Jun 2015 7:59PM

Quote:Well, that's rather impressive Grin I'm kind of glad you put in the CG by accident, otherwise I may not have seen it in the main gallery (like Moira, it's not my area but that doesn't stop me admiring something like this!).

I think the only thing I could possibly add to the observations above is that, on the extreme left of the image frame, there's a wooden post. It's bathed in a golden light, which is lovely, but it's also a tad distracting as (a) there's no corresponding post on the right hand side in order to balance it and 'contain' the rest of the image and (b) when viewed Normal (so I can see the whole of the image without having to scroll side to side) it's so small it's difficult to make out what it is.

So I'm wondering whether a minor crop from the left, to remove it, would help? (It's fine if you don't agree, by the way ... the critique gallery is also a place of meaningful dialogue!)

And a belated welcome from me, too Smile

Tanya



Hi Tanya,

Thank you! While processing the photo, I decided to leave the post present. It was originally bathed in red light, as I was with 5 other photographers that night, and they were all on the less dangerous side of the fence. I believe the light is from their red 2-second timer lights or a red headlamp Smile. I opted to keep the post because cropping it out would mean sacrificing the leftmost portion of the Milky Way where it meets the horizon. If I'd have stepped out a few feet more while taking the photo, it wouldn't be present in the image, so it's a great reminder to check the outer bounds of a panorama before shooting it!

Regards,

Earshel
16 Jun 2015 8:04PM

Quote:Welcome from me too.

That is one impressive shot. I can't add any more to what Moira and Tanya have said.
I take it this is a cropped down from a full frame (your D810 has the resolution to cope) rather than a stitched panorama. I'm fine with stitching most images but I guess stitching shots of this would be trickier?
Either way good work and I'm glad you posted here as I too may have missed it in the main gallery (even though it does still appear there, it'll be surrounded by many other images).

Keith



Hello Keith,

Thank you! It is actually a 15-shot panoramic stitch using the 14-24 lens at 14mm. Even 14mm isn't wide enough to capture the entire scene, as there's about 180 degrees of coverage in this panoramic photo. Thankfully, Lightroom CC's Photomerge function does a proper job of stitching even night time panos as long as I do my job while shooting them.

Regards,

Earshel

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