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Wave rock not played with

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This is the first shot of Wave Rock before I played with. Yesterday was the finished photoshop vertion but I ask If any one could help or make it better. So to day there no vote on this just to see if anyone can help make the shot better.
Please look at todays then yesterday then give advice...

Thanks again to all the help and advice. P.S. any going to the FOCAS Show at NEC. I am going there on wed 25th Feb please send a note to me if you like to meet up and have a drink at the show...

Dave

Tags: Australia Western australia Landscape travel Landscape and travel Wave rock

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11 Feb 2009 8:23AM
Sorry Dave Cant help
You know I am a beginner
I thought the one you put up yesterday was great
This one just looks washed out
I am sure someone out there wil help and I will keep watching cos it will help me also
Barba

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iancam 8 23 England
11 Feb 2009 9:21AM
Sorry Dave still learning myself. I have tried with your image but could not improve it. Lack of knowledge I am afraid
Ian
Hoffy Plus
11 262 16 England
11 Feb 2009 9:37AM
I think you may need the Raw file to pull back some detail in it.
Brindamour 7 2 1 Australia
11 Feb 2009 10:28AM
Hi Dave,

This would probably have been a good candidate for some HDR (see hdrsoft.com for a good explanation fo the process if you are unaware of it). See my gallery for a shot of the same rock but looking the other way taken only a few weeks ago. Although I am still a beginner at photography, I have been been using PS and other editing programs for years (still not that advanced yet, but getting there).

I don't yet have a good eye for shots yet, but when I took this shot I did have a very good idea of what I would get at the other end of some basic processing. I guess this is my first step to becoming a better photographer in some ways. Many pro's talk about seeing and framing the shot beforehand, and those with some PS skills can also see the picture after some processing even before the shot has been taken. Maybe a little forethought could have produced a better result.

Play around with bracketing shots with bright and shadowed areas such as in this pic. You don't necessarily have to use it for HDR later on, but you could blend in the correctly exposed shadows into the pic with the correctly exposed highlights. Try underexposing in future, you can normally get back some detail from the shadows, but it's a lot harder to get back detail from the overexposed areas.

I think you did very well with the PS'ed version. I can see some ghosting around the people, but you did bring back a lot of the colour, although at the expense of darkening the shadows. I only played around with it for a few minutes and couldn't get much better, although I could only get a low quality jpeg from this site. More could be done with the original (preferably RAW) file.

Composition-wise, this is a hard subject to photograph. Both of our photos have a tiny bit of sky, the lip of the wave, the face of the wave. I see you cropped the tree out in the PS version. The trees in my version added to the composition I thought.

Whilst most of my long comment has been focused on the post processing and some wont actually help with this shot that is already taken, I hope that you will see that even if you are going to PS something, you still need to think about it before you take the shot. I see from your gallery that you have a good amount of experience, maybe just a change in thinking just before you shoot will help.

I hope nobody now actually thinks I know what I am doing, but I hope this helps you.

Shane...
AnneWorner 8 620 43 United States
11 Feb 2009 12:31PM
Hi Dave,
Thanks for uploading this, so we could see what you had to work with.
Seeing the strong contrast between shadow and light area, I think you did an excellent job with the processing in the previous shot.
One thing I forgot to add yesterday is that with digital you have a very small exposure latitude - appx 1/2 to 1 stop. Most people prefer to see the light areas well exposed - our eyes don't mind the shadow areas being darker; something to remember when taking a shot. Make sure the highlights are properly exposed. Use the histogram on your LCD screen to ensure that you don't have blown highlights. The histogram also is a very good guide to show you your overall exposure. I use it all the time on my camera.
Anne
Carabosse Plus
13 40.1k 269 England
11 Feb 2009 12:36PM
Hi Dave. I would say your shot yesterday looked a little dark and over processed. This one looks overexposed in places. A happy medium between the two would be good. Smile

I've uploaded a mod for you in which I have endeavoured to pull back detail from the blown highlights, uisng the shadows/highlights tool, while at the same time keeping a reasonable amount of contrast via a curves adjustment. Hope that is of use.
gary_d Plus
8 576 13 Wales
11 Feb 2009 10:25PM
When I have bright areas in an image I usually open up curves and move the eye dropper over that area and if it reads 255 then it is upto or over what can normally be recovered, personally I think you did an amassing job with the last upload. - gary
Tooth 11 5.8k 227 Ireland
12 Feb 2009 10:30PM
One way of dealing with this is curves - as long as there is some detail in the highlight and shadow areas you can selectively lighten and darken different tonal areas. I've done a very quick mod with just one curve, just to show you the effect, and I've also uploaded a pic of the actual curve (it's in PSP but the concepts are the same). The top right has a dip where I've pulled down the curve to darken the very light areas. There's a hump in the middle to slightly lighten the main midtone areas, and a little pull down bottom left to boost contrast a wee bit by slightly darkening the shadows..

of course you'd eget better results by spending more time on it, just want to illustrate it for you

Stephen
banehawi Plus
12 1.5k 3510 Canada
25 Mar 2011 6:41PM
Wheres the original one to compare, - doesnt seem to be still up?

W

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