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Wells beach huts

By marcsneddon
Our neighbours for the week!

Looking for critique around framing, black and white composition as still trying to get the hang of b&w photograhy!

Tags: Black and white Beach huts


Merlin_k Plus
10 39 13 United States
30 Aug 2019 8:51PM
I understand what you were trying to do with the framing but, in my eyes, the fact that the lower part of the frame is open slats rather than solid wood is definitely a problem. Everything in the bottom quarter of the image becomes broken in an uncomfortable way the steps leading down from the other huts are distracting because they are disjointed, and then there are bits of people that we can see.
Personally I wouldn’t go B&W with this image. Beach huts have such lovely colors and there is so much in this picture. It doesn’t fit the simplicity that monochrome gives.

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30 Aug 2019 9:10PM
Great critique thanks. I need more practice! I have uploaded the original.
30 Aug 2019 9:33PM
I agree with Merlin. There are so many conflicting lines and angles that I find the result visually incoherent... my eye isn't sure where to go, and for me, that out-of-focus horizontal rail along the bottom is a particular problem. Its inclusion seems meaningless.
And what's that blurry white strip along the bottom of the frame? I suppose that must be a result of simple carelessness, and I don't understand why you left it in when you processed the image.

It might have been better if you'd taken the photograph while standing looking over that rail, rather than from some distance behind it.
And I think that, as Merlin suggests, it might also be better in colour.

chase Plus
14 1.2k 259 England
30 Aug 2019 10:26PM
This is indeed much better in colour, but that rail........ouch ! stopped me going further into the image.
Good advice and comments above, nothing really to add tbh.
Hang over the rail, you know you want to !!
Merlin_k Plus
10 39 13 United States
30 Aug 2019 11:55PM
I understand the rail if it is used as a frame. The problem is that you don’t have a top equivalent to give you the full frame effect. But it could be quite a nice vintage pic, at least I quite like my mod.
mrswoolybill Plus
12 1.6k 2078 United Kingdom
31 Aug 2019 7:51AM
The lower part of the frame is definitely the problem. It's not just that the lines are confusing. That horizontal rail is immediately in front of us, it's something that we should feel we can reach out and touch. But it's just a blur. Try holding fingers up in front of your eyes and then focus on the view beyond - it's not comfortable but that is what you are asking the viewer to do.

I like Merlin's crop, I think a contrasty b&w of a similar crop could work. I have to go out but I shall try it later today.

31 Aug 2019 8:06AM
Tried a crop, and a contrasty conversion with a hint of sepia. Another way of looking at it.
dudler Plus
16 927 1516 England
31 Aug 2019 9:05AM
A scene with a lot going for it, a lot going on in it... But the original is a slightly lazy, sitting in my deckchair sort of a shot. You need to be up and about the location...

I agree about the slats being a problem - though I can envisage a piicture framed entirely through the slats.

I like both the mods, and can envisage a few more crops within the frame, as posted. Or go across to the rail, and use a long lens on the diagonals: there must be a dozen abstracts in there for the taking.

As for the original B/W conversion - it lacks contrast and bite... I think, in holding detail in the sky, you've let the stuff below the horizon get too dark. Classic landscape need for a graduated filter, or for clever processing.

My mod tried the lazy frame, using hte blurred roofline as part of a frame. I used Nik Efex to do the conversion, applying the hallowed red filter to get sky detail, while keeping skin tones lighter. I wanged the contrast and brightness up a good bit, too.
mrswoolybill Plus
12 1.6k 2078 United Kingdom
31 Aug 2019 2:53PM
Back again. I've uploaded two mods, the first a tighter crop of the colour original, with a bit of added brightness and some gentle dodging and burning on the foreground.

Then when I came to look at mono, I noticed how eerie the beach huts looked, like alien observers. (I have had nothing stronger than water to drink, honestly...) So a contrasty mono worked in Nik Silver Efex, with split toning and a hint of burn edges plus a frame.
31 Aug 2019 3:07PM
Haha like the alien comment! Thanks for the critique everyone. It's helping me with composition and framing for sure.

paulbroad Plus
12 131 1285 United Kingdom
1 Sep 2019 6:30PM
As above. This type of shot needs strong colour - it is what we expect to see. The mono conversion is a bit heavy and flat - needing a bit more rightness and contrast.


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