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where am I going wrong

By pluckyfilly
Its in the processing certain of it but where and how do I put probems right! if you can help - answers on a P.C. pleaseWink I manage to get a haze in some of my pics and nothing I seem to do will get ridSad

many thanks for all c/c's on yesterdays upload I am most grateful for your timeSmile

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Sooty_1 6 1.5k 220 United Kingdom
13 Oct 2011 9:55AM
It looks oversharpened to me....less is more in many cases. Try unsharp mask at 100% radius 1.0 and threshold right at the bottom. Vary the % amount but not the other parameters and see if that improves it.
It looks like the contrast is being affected like a bad HDR tone map.


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Shroomer 9 14 167 England
13 Oct 2011 9:58AM
It looks to me like lens flare Ann from the position of the sun. Bad time of day to take a photo with strong sun and also this time of year with it being low in the sky. Would be good to see the original to see if it is the processing or if the errors are in the initail shot.. You may be just trying to do too much in Photoshop when it doesn't need it. Remember the old saying, get it right in the camera first. You can recover under exposed but not over exposed.
Put the original up to compare with nothing done to it please, you cannot do a MOD on something already processed.
gingerdelight 10 298 11 United Kingdom
13 Oct 2011 10:05AM
I see what you mean about the haze, it has a blue tinge. I wonder, have you mistakenly got the Tungsten setting on? I had this trouble when I was just starting out when I had it on by mistake, and everything had a blue tinge.
13 Oct 2011 10:55AM
I would suspect that the white balance setting is incorrect. Try using the levels middle brush (mid grey) which I told you about a little while ago.
RonnieAG Plus
6 153 116 Scotland
13 Oct 2011 11:21AM
I am no expert in diagnosis, Ann, but I too would consider checking the white balance: the other matter is the time of day you took the shot.......the sunlight is very strong giving a high contrast original image.
Sorry I cannot be of more help.
mrswoolybill Plus
9 986 1501 United Kingdom
13 Oct 2011 1:25PM
I had a quick play and have just uploaded a Mod - I found it difficult too, but worked basically on toning down the blown highlights and beefing up the textures. But I found I couldn't get rid of the blue cast satisfactorily.
You're shooting in RAW, you should be able to retrieve more from the original file. But I'd agree with the above, I wouldn't be using full aperture in these conditions!
Sooty_1 6 1.5k 220 United Kingdom
13 Oct 2011 3:06PM
If you could upload a straight shot with no photoshopping, we can have a go at it (or send it pm if you want).

taggart Plus
12 47 13 United States
13 Oct 2011 4:45PM
I am wondering, Ann, if your are not over sharpening-- or also perhaps oversharpening at the wrong time -- and I think Mossy might be correct-- the setting could be just a little tighter-- maybe move your aperture to f8 or higher.

Remember, there is a great deal of light reflecting off that water-- a very tricky situation to work with!
pluckyfilly Plus
10 351 33 United Kingdom
13 Oct 2011 5:30PM
this was taken during that very hot sunny weekend we had recently it could have been the bright sun! I have been out today and changed my white balance to cloudy, it was actually a very sunny day but on my LCD screen I feel things are looking better, its difficult to tell until I put them on the pc, I will upload the original now - perhaps in hindsight I should have done that today anyway thanks one and all
TrevBatWCC Plus
8 12 10 England
13 Oct 2011 5:58PM
I do think we can get a bit carried away with all this processing in Photoshop when the image needs little doing to it - I'm a culprit of this! It is quite a contrasty, sunny day, and maybe that has something to do with it. I don't how I'd correct this - still a nice capture of the moment, Ann Smile
Trev Smile
Glostopcat 10 255 2 England
13 Oct 2011 6:28PM
Would it be worth you using a filter of some sort to block out the harsh light? If you are using a compact camera you can use your sunglasses to act as a filter to block out some of the harsh light
taggart Plus
12 47 13 United States
13 Oct 2011 6:56PM
Crop accomplished and posted, Thank you
tomcat 11 6.4k 15 United Kingdom
13 Oct 2011 8:33PM
You best get the kettle on & we will all turn up, to offer advice.Grin

Having said that, who knows where you might beWinkTongue

Methinks you are trying to hard Ann and a very simple solution is around the corner.

If you can e-mail me an original RAW then please do

Jestertheclown 8 7.4k 249 England
13 Oct 2011 9:34PM
It's your processing that's adrift here.

The original, I assume that's V3, is underexposed. The levels histogram falls well short of the RHS.
I've rectified that and adjusted the white balance manually ("custom," not a pre-set). I've added some fill in light, adjusted the contrast using a threshold curves adjustment, turned down some of the resulting brightness and that's about it.
For some reason, although I haven't sharpened it at all, the resulting mod. looks oversharpened to me. It maybe to do with the uploading.
Adjusting your white balance in camera to suit conditions might seem like a good idea but it can often be a recipe for disaster unless you can be sure to remember to keep making the adjustments.
I always leave the white balance set to auto as I'm shooting RAW and as I'm going to be processing it in Lightroom anyway, there's no real need to keep changing it.
I'm not entirely happy with the result but it's probably the best I can do with what there is to work with. You should be able to improve upon it using a copy of the original.
All done using Lightroom and CS5.
Hope this helps.


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