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Windmill

By JustJack2004
Finally got back out on the weekend for some photography however did not get too many shots i was proud of, however i quite liked this one. All criticism is welcome!

Tags: Windmill Country Black and white

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dudler Plus
15 858 1483 England
13 Mar 2019 10:13AM
Fairly weird settings there, Jack - 1/15 @ f/13. I wonder whether you were aiming for some blur in the blades?

You've done a monochrome conversion, too, and possibly added grain/noise: it would be useful to know how, and what you were aiming to do (and whether you feel you achieved it).

Having said all of that, I quite like this, too - interesting use of negative space, pretty good tonal range, and a very simple subject.

A black surround (you get ptions when you upload, I think) would have set this off dramatically: the tones being jsut off-white is a subtle approach, which you may prefer, though.

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13 Mar 2019 10:54AM
I suppose 1/15th is rather risky at that focal length, but it hasn't caused any problems as far as I can see. Perhaps you were using a tripod?
For absolute quality 1/60th @ f/8 would have served you better, but the processing style of high contrast with grain render that consideration largely irrelevant as far as I'm concerned... text book technical perfection is not what this image is about.

I really, really, like this image... the grain showing on the blades is particularly effective, and I like how the topmost blades are almost disappearing into white. That tonal gradation in the other blades is gorgeous.

I'd suggest changing the background either to black, as John suggests, or one of the greys, but otherwise I wouldn't want to change anything.
If this was in the main gallery I'd vote for it, maybe even give it my award.

Alan
banehawi Plus
14 2.0k 4003 Canada
13 Mar 2019 12:05PM
Nice to see you back Jack. I see youve been doing quite a bit of mono work in your portfolio.


Ive added a black border in a mod, - it shows how it can enhance the presentation, - and as suggested above, when you upload, you have options for colours of the EPZ background, one of which is black Jack.


That lens is an IS lens, and at 25mm (40mm equivalent) the 1/15 is manageable for the lens which has a three stop stabilisation range. But learn not to rely on it! Higher ISO would move you into safer territory.


Regards


Willie
JustJack2004 Junior Member
13 Mar 2019 9:38PM

Quote:Fairly weird settings there, Jack - 1/15 @ f/13. I wonder whether you were aiming for some blur in the blades?

You've done a monochrome conversion, too, and possibly added grain/noise: it would be useful to know how, and what you were aiming to do (and whether you feel you achieved it).


i believe ths settings were from a previous photo and when i went to take this photo it provided the look above so i didnt try to change them too much in case i lost some effect, and as no real negative impacts were caused i just went with it. the monocrhome version was actually a filter on my camera, i was moreso testing it and took some pictures but this one worked better with the camera filter than expected and the grain/noise i dont quite remember how i did that to be honest i think it just worked like that with the settings from the previous photos and the filter mode on the camera.

Quote:Perhaps you were using a tripod?
For absolute quality 1/60th @ f/8 would have served you better, but the processing style of high contrast with grain render that consideration largely irrelevant as far as I'm concerned... text book technical perfection is not what this image is about.

I really, really, like this image... the grain showing on the blades is particularly effective, and I like how the topmost blades are almost disappearing into white. That tonal gradation in the other blades is gorgeous.

I'd suggest changing the background either to black, as John suggests, or one of the greys, but otherwise I wouldn't want to change anything.
If this was in the main gallery I'd vote for it, maybe even give it my award.


Yes i was using a tripod in this shot. Next time i get a chance to use my camera i want to explore all the different settings on a camera and how aperture, ISO and the rest go together to change an image so i will try the reccomendation out then too if i do some similiar shots. Thank you for the compliments on the image! didnt think it was award worthy but im happy you would have considered it! also i believe the background choices when uploading are only for plus members and i am not a plus member currently.

Quote:Nice to see you back Jack. I see youve been doing quite a bit of mono work in your portfolio.


Ive added a black border in a mod, - it shows how it can enhance the presentation, - and as suggested above, when you upload, you have options for colours of the EPZ background, one of which is black Jack.


That lens is an IS lens, and at 25mm (40mm equivalent) the 1/15 is manageable for the lens which has a three stop stabilisation range. But learn not to rely on it! Higher ISO would move you into safer territory.


Thanks, its good to be back, didnt get many good photos though i feel unfortuntaely from this trip however it was moreso a test run of what i had learnt. i dont believe i can change the border currently as i am not a plsu member, however i do see how it enhances it in your modification. ill be sure to move away from relying on it either.
Thanks for all the positive feed back and criticicsm!
paulbroad Plus
11 127 1282 United Kingdom
14 Mar 2019 8:16AM
A bit too far gone for me. I applaud attempts at being different and LITH type images can have great impact but you have too much total loss of detail here giving a rather incomplete effect.

Paul
mrswoolybill Plus
12 1.5k 2053 United Kingdom
14 Mar 2019 9:11AM
It's all been said. But welcome back from me! I really like this, it's about atmosphere and mood, and the processing works for me.

I came across a really interesting comment by the great photographer Don McCullin recently (do a spot of Google research if you don't know his work). I can't remember verbatim, but it was on the lines of - B&W is honest because it doesn't pretend to be the literal truth as colour does. It announces itself as an interpretation, a distillation of the truth.

That's why b&w works...
Moira
JustJack2004 Junior Member
14 Mar 2019 8:19PM

Quote:It's all been said. But welcome back from me! I really like this, it's about atmosphere and mood, and the processing works for me.

I came across a really interesting comment by the great photographer Don McCullin recently (do a spot of Google research if you don't know his work). I can't remember verbatim, but it was on the lines of - B&W is honest because it doesn't pretend to be the literal truth as colour does. It announces itself as an interpretation, a distillation of the truth.


Thanks! its good to be back too. and ill be sure to do some research on him when i can.

dudler Plus
15 858 1483 England
14 Mar 2019 11:02PM
And if you decide that you like McCullin, there's an exhibition at the Tate Gallery of his work at present. I'm not sure how long it's on, though...
paulbroad Plus
11 127 1282 United Kingdom
15 Mar 2019 8:35PM
the majority of my photographic life was in black and white. mon still works well for many subjects where impact and strength are required. Mostly street shots an news, but not natural history or pure record. Neither does it work when selling through libraries. Why would a customer buy mono when they can buy colour and have colour AND black and white from the same file.

Mon is very good for the exhibition wall.

paul

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