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Red Gerbera

By RobW
red Gerbera in a glass vase

was looking for a simple still life to include the vase (looks slightly off the vertical but perhaps that is an optical illusion).. slightly edited to make it a more "painted" image

Tags: Red Gerbera Flowers and plants High key

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alistairfarrugia 10 164 88 Malta
13 Dec 2012 12:46PM
Modification uploaded. Simple and effective image here. Check the mod to see what I would do to the image in post-processing. Well done.
RobW 18 59 United Kingdom
13 Dec 2012 12:51PM
thanks Alistair... the clarify filter isn't one I have seen - is it in CS3 or newer than that? Yep the vertical I need to adjust too - the position - hadn't considered that (yeah know the rule of thirds) - will have to review that as well....
alistairfarrugia 10 164 88 Malta
13 Dec 2012 1:04PM
The clarify feature is something that I use on Paint Shop Pro 7, an old version that is. I don't know if it's present in more modern stuff, however what it does is to add some sharpness and adjust local contrast levels simultaneously. I typically use it to enhance pictures or areas where there is little contrast. In your case, the Clarify tool helped add some contrast in the petals themselves as in the original image they looked a bit more flat, so to speak. I think Clarify helped give the picture a bit more 3D feel.

PS: I noticed that the frame I did isn't even - my bad. Had to have the same amount of pixels of black border on each side, but went for an odd number increase in canvas size so ended up with one area with a pixel extra! Sorry!
RobW 18 59 United Kingdom
13 Dec 2012 1:19PM

Quote:The clarify feature is something that I use on Paint Shop Pro 7, an old version that is. I don't know if it's present in more modern stuff, however what it does is to add some sharpness and adjust local contrast levels simultaneously. I typically use it to enhance pictures or areas where there is little contrast. In your case, the Clarify tool helped add some contrast in the petals themselves as in the original image they looked a bit more flat, so to speak. I think Clarify helped give the picture a bit more 3D feel.

PS: I noticed that the frame I did isn't even - my bad. Had to have the same amount of pixels of black border on each side, but went for an odd number increase in canvas size so ended up with one area with a pixel extra! Sorry!



thanks (dont worry about the frame - I hadnt noticed it wasnt even Wink).... I will have a look to see if CS3 has a "clarify" option....
alistairfarrugia 10 164 88 Malta
13 Dec 2012 1:39PM
Look for local contrast or something of the sort. Probably will do the same thing.
banehawi Plus
18 2.9k 4334 Canada
13 Dec 2012 2:51PM
Hi Rob, a good effort and a very nice flower.

A few observations. The flower is underexposed; if you shot it against the white background, you needed to take the large area of white into account, and use exposure compensation of up to +1; theres a visible line just to the right of the flower, at an angle leaning slightly away towards the top, as if theres a transition from a background on the left to a new one on the right; Theres too much white space to show off the flower properly; the vase is tilted, - not a big issue; the subject lends itself much better to a portrait composition rather than a landscape; its not actually high key, - that would have been a very bright Gerbera.


I have uploaded a mod with exposure corrected; cropped to a portrait style and framed simply; painted out the line; increased contrast and sharpened.

Theres something not quite right about the exif data, it indicated your lens has a max aperture of f/1.8, and then shows it was shot at f/1.4, which is not possible, so perhaps you can lets know whats right. Its doesnt look like a very wide open shot to me.


Hope this helps,


regards


Willie
RobW 18 59 United Kingdom
13 Dec 2012 2:55PM

Quote:Hi Rob, a good effort and a very nice flower.

A few observations. The flower is underexposed; if you shot it against the white background, you needed to take the large area of white into account, and use exposure compensation of up to +1; theres a visible line just to the right of the flower, at an angle leaning slightly away towards the top, as if theres a transition from a background on the left to a new one on the right; Theres too much white space to show off the flower properly; the vase is tilted, - not a big issue; the subject lends itself much better to a portrait composition rather than a landscape; its not actually high key, - that would have been a very bright Gerbera.


I have uploaded a mod with exposure corrected; cropped to a portrait style and framed simply; painted out the line; increased contrast and sharpened.

Theres something not quite right about the exif data, it indicated your lens has a max aperture of f/1.8, and then shows it was shot at f/1.4, which is not possible, so perhaps you can lets know whats right. Its doesnt look like a very wide open shot to me.


Hope this helps,


regards


Willie



thanks for that - love the crop and adjustments you have done - going to have a look at this one again (and nice border - something else I am thinking of adding) - yes the EXIF data will be wrong as I am using an m42 lens + EF adapter (so the camera doesnt get anything from the lens). It is a 50mm f1.8 lens (as to what I shot this at - possibly f4
banehawi Plus
18 2.9k 4334 Canada
13 Dec 2012 3:17PM
Thanks for the info Rob, now it makes sense. Re Clarify, - it may be the Clarity adjustment when working on a RAW file thats being referred to. And its simply a contrast enhancement.


Willie
Focus_Man 12 481 631 United Kingdom
13 Dec 2012 3:40PM
This is a good example of a 'less is more' picture for me and very striking indeed. The stark red against the bright white BG is good. My problem would be the composition here with too much white to the RHS. I realise this conforms to RoT but would much rather see RoT here on a portrait format rather than landscape.

Frank
pablophotographer 11 2.1k 431
13 Dec 2012 6:10PM
Hello.

I have seen all the modifications (I liked banehawi's mostly as it appears aesthetically well presented). I like your shooy also and the orientation of it, despite banehawi's being totally different.

It seems that I am the only one who considers the other element of your picture (the vase/bottle) problematic. Not in shape as much (although I wondered would it be possible to have had the flower supported and the stem being at that height without the vase/bottle being visible) but in colour. It introduces a new colour to the picture which is not the best match to the rest of the other colours. To my humble opinion it would be more pleasing to have made the vase/bottle have the same dark colour of the gerbera.

best regards.
paulbroad Plus
15 131 1294 United Kingdom
13 Dec 2012 6:44PM
Interesting image, but maybe a little too simplistic for me. You appear to have extended the canvas yourself as there is a faint tonal difference shown by straight edges round the bloom. A good idea and interesting to see the old lens in use. Does the mount have a lens built in or, for m42, do you get away with just a virgin adapter.

Paul

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