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Yendi - CS3 help!

By ARJones
This is the second uploaded shot from a session with Yendi. My studio experience is limited (as is my photoshop experience!) and so far I have tended to light the background separately ending up with a white background. On this occasion just the model was lit and I like the grey tones of the background however the paper was dirty and creased - I am looking for advice as to how best 'smooth' the background whilst still leaving it 'natural' looking using CS3. Any advice in an easy 'idiot guide' would be appreciated.

Andy

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MGJ 11 372 6
29 Nov 2008 11:51PM
Clone out the worst bits, of which there are not many, then make a crude selection around the model with feathered edges and put it on a layer. Apply gaussian blur to the layer and adjust the opacity to suit? If you are cloning on a selection layer with feathered edges don't forget to lock transparent pixels, or you might drop a bit of cloning onto bits you don't want

Another alternative is to use the Martin Evening book masking against a light background using one channel technique, and put her against any background you like - its specifically designed for masking complex shapes like hair, and it is very very effective - simple to do in steps, but quite involved. Worth it though and far better than all this selecting using wands etc, because it is so accurate.

If you want to adjust the background alone, make a copy, set the background to any level of white or grey or gradient you want, and then use technique above to mask out model and import the model back from the original onto the altered background.

You certainly used a lot of DOF, which hasn't helped you?

also you have a RAW - do two developments, one of the background one for the model, and use shift move to drop the lighter onto the darker. Create a layer mask - reveal all and start spraying black! So you have lots of choices and any combination is going to sort it out for you.

Not got the book by Martin Evening Adobe Photoshop 3CS3 for Photographers? Best 30 one can ever spend as a PS user.Hope that is of some help.

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colin 14 697 5 Scotland
29 Nov 2008 11:54PM
Great make up and pose - the blues are very striking. The picture though as you've pointed out, is let down by the dirty and creased background.
If its not possible to sort before you begin shooting, the a bit of manip is always possible.
I'm no expert and there are many different approaches, but the simplest that I know is to paint over any flaws like this (see my mod) One of the difficulties you have in this image is the fact that the lighting is unevenly spread cross the image from light grey to white. A simply used the colour selector (ink dropper) and then did my best to blend into the rest of the colours.
You could also try using layers and pushing up the curves to 'white out' the background and then erase the rest of the background to reveal the original image, but it needs a fair bit of patience, something that I lack.
Hope this helps, although I'm sure others will offer much more constructive and effective methods.
Colin
banehawi Plus
15 2.1k 4018 Canada
30 Nov 2008 12:01AM
How does this look Andy?

Heres what I did:

Use the patch tool; select large chunks of the background where there are wrinkles, drag the selected area to a part with no wrinkles, and release. Do this until most of the wrinkles are gone. The patch tool has to be set up for "source" on the option bar, top of the screen, - its the default, s it may work first time.

For any areas that are still a little wrinkled that you can get done with the patch tool, - heres a trick:

Use the colour dropper to select the colour of the area you want to fix; then paint it at 100% opacity and 20% flow; keep sampling the colour of each area and painting to make it look real.

Then just clean up the dirty bottom area with the spot healing brush.

Hope this is what you wanted, - if not, just let me know.


Regards


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ARJones 12 103 3 United Kingdom
30 Nov 2008 12:45AM
Guys,

Thanks so much for taking the time to give your advice and for the mods - which you seem to have been able to do in a very short time - which is a testament to your PS skills!!

This shoot evolved very quickly and was really meant to be some beauty shots for the make-up artist but I liked this pose even though I had not really specifically lit for the shot.

So it looks like it can be rescued but not sure my PS skills are up to it as yet - probably using layers is the way to go but I'm not too good on that side - still will have a go and see how I get on.

Thanks again.

Andy
chrishanley 10 48 United Kingdom
30 Nov 2008 1:14AM
did a slightly lighter version
Simon_Whitehouse 14 769 5 United Kingdom
30 Nov 2008 1:16AM
I think this is good out of the camera, maybe a touch of cloning. Good work, keep it up.

Si
ARJones 12 103 3 United Kingdom
30 Nov 2008 2:50AM
Have uploaded my attempt as a modification - Chris - the lighter version works pretty well - thanks!

Regards

Andy
banehawi Plus
15 2.1k 4018 Canada
30 Nov 2008 3:48AM
Good work, - the V2 looks very good, - you learn quickly!


Willie
MGJ 11 372 6
30 Nov 2008 11:00PM
I rather like the the lighter version too.

May I suggest you just darken (relative to the rest) the corners ever so slightly. A sort of fake and subtle vignette/gradient. You want it almost un-noticeable, but its one of those exhibition photo printers tricks (of which I am not one) to just gently keep the eye in the pic and concentrated on the subject, and it can make a touch of difference when you have large areas of even tone surrounding a single subject. (Easy way is just to change the brush mode to luminosity, and cut the opacity to a very low level. You can use the dodge and burn, but they are not easy to control - or I don't find them so.

Do it on a layer, and then you can adjust the opacity of the layer to control the appplication of the effect. Slelect the area - feathering by a few pixels - layer by copy (ctrlJ), then play with the effect and adjust layer opacity. Same deal with the gaussian blur trick above above - very good for sorting out skin blemishes at about 30% opacity!!!!.

BTW if you need to paint in something (even at reduced opacity) having changed the foreground colour, you can paint in. BUT, you wont get any texture and it can make (say) skin a bit flat, so again, make a selection, ctrlJ, lock transparent pixel to avoid overspray, and then play with opacity to get it all looking right. If you need to add texture, then you can sample the skin as a pattern, and bring it in - but again, you really want the Evening book. (Sorts blown highlights a treat - not that you have them, but its a great rescue if you ever need it!!!!)

Anyway try it and see?
TomHarper 10 16 2 Scotland
1 Dec 2008 4:14PM
The faults you point out yourself aside the model is nicely lit and I like her slightly awkward pose. I do feel that the space on the upper right is wasted and she should be staring more into a similar space. As it is it feels ever so slightly off balance. But still nice photo worth the effort to clone out, patch or whatever to sort the background.
Wellspring 10 86 37 England
25 Dec 2008 4:38PM
Mod 3 works best of all by far for me -I love the gentle soft lighting of the background which really separates the model from the background for me.

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