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The lettet

By Balance_78
This candid street capture was taken in Manchester's At Anne's square. I was trying to convey, that due to lock down restrictions, people's urge to get outside again. I had noticed during the warm spell over March that more activities that would, in my opinion, be undertaken inside are now being done outside (like letter writing)

The settings for the camera were on manual
1/750 ISO 400 F1.8

Tags: Street photography Street Amateur Black and white

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banehawi Plus
17 2.6k 4274 Canada
23 Apr 2021 2:11PM
It's quite good as before.

It would be better if her feet were included, - easy to make this mistake, just take a second to look at all corners of the frame to be sure nothings missed.

Have you used a Fuji mono preset or have you converted from colour?


Regards


Willie
mrswoolybill Plus
15 3.0k 2465 United Kingdom
23 Apr 2021 2:12PM
Hello again. My thoughts here are very similar to the previous upload - again you have found an interesting subject, but the shot isn't as interesting as she deserves...

This lady isn't going to move in a hurry, there's no rush to grab the shot in seconds. So take a bit more time to think it out. Get down lower, think through the composition, and allow the subject context. You've photographed the lady but you haven't given her space that would make her a part of her surroundings, so she looks cramped in the frame.

And it's the surroundings that tell the story. We need to see something of the empty street, or alternatively the world going on around her - either would turn a grab shot into a narrative. I'd like to see her on the right of a landscape format composition - don't assume that people need a vertical frame. Here you've gone in so close that you have clipped her feet, which looks awkward.

So look at the options, move around a bit (discreetly - never stare. Work on developing the street photographer's Cloak of Invisibility...) Make sure that everything in the frame works together...

Just looking at the settings that you have quoted (and thanks for that), my feeling is that you didn't need 1/750 second, and I cannot see the virtue of F/1.8 here. 1/160 second would have been amply safe, and I would go for F/5.6 for a street portrait.

Moira
Hi Willie and Moira

1st of all I would like to say thank you.
I shoot in bnw and I'm no a big fan of converting, I feel something is lost when converting.
The settings were chosen because there was a lot of light and I wanted a little bit of bokeh. I will have to work on my invisibility, I find it difficult because I am 6ft 3in and very broad.

What I will take away from this, is: work on framing the shot, change perspective and include a narrative to add to the story

Cheers
Gregg
mrswoolybill Plus
15 3.0k 2465 United Kingdom
23 Apr 2021 3:12PM

Quote:What I will take away from this, is: work on framing the shot, change perspective and include a narrative to add to the story


Result! Grin

As regards b&w conversion, it does depend not just on your software but on how you use it. I use Nik Silver Efex Pro, which genuinely gives me the blacks that I used to achieve with film, plus flexibility. But I agree that it's a personal choice.
mrswoolybill Plus
15 3.0k 2465 United Kingdom
23 Apr 2021 5:48PM
As an afterthought, I suggest that you have a look at this guy's portfolio. He's very good at putting people in context, creating a link between them and their surroundings, composing to make them a part of a bigger picture. It's not necessarily what you are wanting to do but you may find his work interesting. (It's worth going back over a few pages, as he does other things as well).

He has limited mobility, his favourite technique is to find a public bench where he can see an interesting backdrop, and then wait for people to walk into it.
dudler Plus
18 1.7k 1884 England
23 Apr 2021 11:22PM
I'm with Willie on the feet, but the composition is much neater than last time, because the subject's head is not in front of the thing in the background on the left.

You've sort of sidestepped the question of the suitability of a wide-aperture manual focus lens for candid work. Just to say it again - you are making life very difficult for yourself. That's fine, so long as you understand it.

Shooting in mono is fine, but it's important to consider the range of creative options you have if you shoot in colour and convert to monochrome - you can, for instance, replicate the effect that you get on film using coloured filters to lighten or darken specific colours. Even if you stick rigidly to in-camera mono, you should make use, at the least, of the Levels adjustment in editing software.
pablophotographer 10 1.9k 414
28 Apr 2021 10:32AM
Good morning amigo.

What a splendid find!!!

You've been told about the missing part of the shoes, which had me thinking, considering the angle you have shot your subject. I guess and I would please ask you to confirm it (-do I sound too sure? LOL-) or clarify to me: have you shot this looking through the back screen of your camera, or through the viewfinder? I suspect you used the rear screen, which could under "stealth photographic operation mode" prohibit you to judge the very bottom part of it. I trust under the pressure of the fixed distance lens, which unlike a zoom lens cannot "pull further back" and allow more space, you would have to walk backwards to allow the full length of the shoes in the frame. Missing out the shoe tip weighted against missing out the shot by being noticed working on framing your subject, I would have taken the same option with you: not missing the chance to shoot the subject. I doubt you would have let them out if you had used the viewfinder. What stays in the frame is as important as what is left out of the frame* and what I see in the frame is a nice picture of a lady thinking what to write down.

I do not want to see her surrounding public space in this occasion**, the bench is just as good and the rubbish bin serves the humble duty of keeping Manchester tidy.

I noticed you have shot all your frames you have uploaded here in black and white. If this is your crusade, I hail you. When I load my film camera with black and white film all my pictures come out in black and white.

Here's to more pictures of a world living again without Covid.
pablophotographer

*check my picture of a frying pan, it has a nice recipe for a very tasty coffee
**check my picture I titled "summer in the city", sometimes background matters (sometimes it does not) the trick is to know when it does 😏😎😲😉
Hi Pablo

Your correct with you assumptions, it was a quick turn and click. I didn't have a enough time to frame the shot
When I practice street photography, I shoot only in mono. I feel something is lost when you convert from colour to bnw

Thank you
Gregg
dudler Plus
18 1.7k 1884 England
28 Apr 2021 6:15PM
With practice, the exact framing will come - it's rather a Zen thing, like avoiding a punch by not being there when it lands. But it needs a lot of practice.

I understand the need for photographic purity: but if you were using film (surely the purest form of street photography, as it's how HCB did it, with a Leica), you'd still have the choice of using a colour filter on the lens to adjust tones: converting from RAW in digital gives you that choice, though retrospectively.

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