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Eildon Hill

By barral  
Scottish Borders

Tags: Black and white Landscape and travel


dudler Plus
16 973 1534 England
26 Mar 2016 10:10PM
From your portfolio, you are celarly an experienced worker, and know exxactly what you're doing.

There's nto a lot of EXIF data - we don't need it for tracing problems, and you don't need advice on it, but it would help newcomers to be able to see exactly how it's done.

This looks as if you've used HDR processing: not offensively strongly, but taking the scene a little way from reality. I'm not sure - I wonder if i'd like it more in a more conventional style - again, though, its' a bit of a trademark for you, I think.

The interesting thing is to have a rather dark and central subject with a clearer background. It's not an obviosuo thing to do, but it keeps growing on me.

I would love to see an unprocessed version, but otherwise, i can't think of any suggestions for a modification, except a smaller and lighter frame...

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mrswoolybill Plus
13 1.7k 2094 United Kingdom
27 Mar 2016 8:33AM
John makes some good points above. I would just add that this is clearly cropped, and I would like to see the full frame. It's an adventurous and very distinctive crop, but what is lacking for me is the base of the hill. I want a satisfying arc to cradle the composition.

I wonder what you cropped off - land or sky?
Otinkyad 16 2 7 United Kingdom
27 Mar 2016 9:24AM
Interesting effect by presumably squeezing and/or stretching the image.
barral 15 2 United Kingdom
27 Mar 2016 6:04PM
Hello and thanks for your comments.

Dudler,, I don't really provide much info as for me it's the final image that matters. However, I'm eternally grateful to all the learning I've had from info provided by others in whatever format. So I will provide more info in future posts. There's no HDR involved, just very slow build up of contrast in distant scenery. A lot of time goes into this and a lot of doubt.. until I'm happy (if ever Wink ) I do try to see things a little unconventional, ie the mountain in the foreground, detail in the distance. Usually the other way around. Now apparently Ansel Adams said that his straight prints looked nothing like his final prints. Not comparing myself to AA, but My work looks nothing like original. And this photo is a stitch of 7 frames Moira, with no cropping other than a trim to tidy the composite image. As Dudler said the image is growing on him. It was the same for me but as it grew on me I too thought more of the base of the hill should be in frame. May return for another shot.. And Otinkyad the image was squeezed some which I think adds an artistic effect.

Thanks again all, I really enjoyed reading your comments.

Kind Regards

paulbroad Plus
12 131 1285 United Kingdom
27 Mar 2016 6:25PM
The info helps others, and the technical side is important. The final image, as you say, is what others see, but the method matters and so many in this section need to know the basics. Exposure,sharpness and so on.

I accept this is not HDR, but it looks it, and quite strong to me. Not sure mono is a god idea with such a compressed range of mid grey tones. I would much prefer a correct mono rendition, or slide deep brown sepia.

The compositin is abit strange. A large chopped off hill right in the middle of the frame. Technically, Iwould prefer more conventional treatment. There appear to be some strangley soft areas?

dudler Plus
16 973 1534 England
27 Mar 2016 6:45PM
Barrie -

Thanks for such a detailed and thoughtful response.

Techniques and approaches differ, and it's as valid to build something far removed from reality as to present slices of 'real life' with minimal interpretation.

And, looking again and reading, I have thought what I want to do to this - I want a little more brightness in the hill itself. I shall play with dodging one or two of the paths - I wonder if that will be enough to relieve the feeling of a dark mass hulking in the frame (I get the same feelign every time I see Selfriedges in Birmingham... And i apologise for likening this hill in your shot to that building! The only resemblance is the hulking!)
dudler Plus
16 973 1534 England
27 Mar 2016 6:48PM
Crude and careless compared with your processing, but I wonder if that changes the light/dark balance? (If so, for better, or worse?)

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