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Gironde estuary 2

By chavender
One of the prawn fishing engines on the Gironde esuary in France.

I tried to find a viewpoint to bring the picture elements together.

Tags: Black and white Landscape and travel

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banehawi Plus
14 1.8k 3894 Canada
24 Dec 2010 2:47PM
This has some nice compositional elements. I like the high contrast, and the long shadows.

The overblown area in the sea and stream let it down a little, and perhaps it may have been better to either expose for the bright areas or take two shots, one exposed as is, and another for the highlights and combined the two (using a tripod of course)

The original shot, without the frame has the horizon nicely on a third, but the inclusion of the frame and its dimensions has thrown this off.

Im not quite sure if such a large expanse of black suits this shot, - but its realy a matter of taste.
In the mos Ive tried to tone down the highlights, but they are quite blown,; Ive cropped a lttle space top and bottom; and used a narrow black border with a white frame sized to place the horizon on a third.

I also found the shy raher flat, so Ive increased the cloud contrast quite a bit.

Hope this is helpful,



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chavender 7 270 1 France
24 Dec 2010 4:05PM
Thanks for the critique and mod Willie.
The sky certainly looks a lot better in your mod.
Regards the blown highlights, I think this happened during conversion for upload as the original shows no clipping in highlights in Lightroom.
There is shadow clipping but I considered this a fair trade off.
I also appreciate your comments re the frame. I have to admit that I never count the frame when considering the ROT.

Thanks again and merry Christmas.
Eviscera 12 1.1k 149 United Kingdom
24 Dec 2010 5:05PM
mmm ,

Good technical advice as always from Willie.

But im left wondering if the viewpoint "lock" really is interesting enough to tie the whole image. Its a black box on top of the jetty.

There are some nice lines under that jetty , might have been an idea to really change your p.o.v , get under there and use the timbers as a found frame to shoot the clouds and horizon. As is , its not holding any dynamic tension to keep the viewer looking very long.

Move around your scene, exclude the irrelevant by zooming in/out,
getting lower or closer etc ,direct the elements from content first , light and exposure and processing last.

chavender 7 270 1 France
24 Dec 2010 5:55PM
Thanks all for the critique much appreciated.
Its so good to get varying views and ideas.
Seasons greetings to all .

paulbroad 10 123 1250 United Kingdom
24 Dec 2010 9:02PM
I'm not a great pictorialist, so whilst I can appreciate a well composed image here, I'm not over keen on the content. That is purely a personal think. Mono is a good choice.

The mod is good, what you have shown is also effective, but I would like more of an interesting subject.

26 Dec 2010 8:54PM
Beautiful shimmering water and detail. Lovely mono image

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