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1 Mar 2008 10:41AM
Dont delete it, it caught my eye straight away! Its a great shot! Makes you wonder what's going through the shopper's mind..the photo makes him look like a lonely sort of chap that you would make a point of smiling at and saying hello.
TonyFrith 15 3 6 United Kingdom
1 Mar 2008 10:43AM
Dont delete it leave it on , the weekends are always slow
CrownJoolz 16 7 United Kingdom
1 Mar 2008 10:52AM
lol not sure how to take that - OK cheers guys - the picture stays x
Buffalo_Tom Plus
16 2.3k 29 Wales
1 Mar 2008 10:53AM
No you musn't delete it Jools.Love the tones in number one.You have a good eye for an image.
EllieEdge 15 15 42 Norway
1 Mar 2008 10:56AM
I think you've done a great job on this. I looked at the original and the sy is kind of missing so an other alternative could be to replace they sky with a more dramatic one.
CrownJoolz 16 7 United Kingdom
1 Mar 2008 10:58AM
um... still a relative newbie how do I replace the sky?
EllieEdge 15 15 42 Norway
1 Mar 2008 11:23AM
Hi Joolz! I assume you have Photoshop. Select the magic want tool and click on the white sky. If not all is included, hold shift down when you click on more areas.
Then open a picture with the sky that you want instead. Select that in the same or other manner. Copy it with ctrl+C.
Go back to the original picture and select Edit -> Paste Into. A new layer will be created and the sky can be moved around.
Thats the short story.
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I have only done a beginners course in this. You will probably find the edge is not looking natural. So you can feather the initial selection by 5-10 pixels, select inverse and delete the inverse and see if it then blends in better. And this is where my knowledge stops and you have to go ti youtube and search for a tutorial on "Photoshop Feather" and see if there is any. Smile
I uploaded a test under your budda picture with an uncomplete sky - pls delete it when you have seen it Smile Hope this helps.
Coleslaw 17 13.4k 28 Wales
1 Mar 2008 11:26AM
Do you really need so much sky in this shot? I personally don't think so, and it is so burnt out. I would be quite happy to crop at least 1/3 off the top.
1 Mar 2008 11:48AM
Excellent in mono.
plugin 18 1 Canada
1 Mar 2008 12:04PM

Quote:Excellent in mono.

Totally agree.
TyChee 17 275 1 United States
1 Mar 2008 12:50PM
Has a felling of total solitude.
mrswoolybill Plus
16 3.5k 2564 United Kingdom
1 Mar 2008 1:40PM
Excellent crop, creating a much stronger composition. I like the very gentle curve of the road, actually leading away from the church tower so a bit quirky.
Experiment with skies as Ellie suggests, but be very wary. Replacement 'dramatic' skies often scream out as false, because the light and shadows (or lack of shadows!) in the scene below so obviously don't match up.
1 Mar 2008 2:04PM
great capture looks great in both images, nice work and thanks for the comment on my seagull, andys0707
woolybill1 Plus
16 39 79 United Kingdom
1 Mar 2008 2:07PM
You have already used your eye to create two important improvements: the crop to vertical and the conversion to mono. The sky might be considered a problem; I find the image is strong enough to stand up to the blank bits.

I leave to others the explanations of how to include a substitute sky - I wouldn't know how, myself. But a crop to almost square, just including the church tower, works very well as an alternative.
luxaeternam 15 21 1
1 Mar 2008 4:25PM
I agree with what has been said so far. An excellent crop, and the mono conversion is good.
The improvement in the sky is also a good idea, and Ellie's explanation should help you whether you're in photoshop or another app.
Don't forget that 'allow modifications' box when you upload something you're not 100% sure about - it's interesting to see what other people come up with.

Smile Lucy
MandsH 15 England
1 Mar 2008 4:33PM
This look superb in mono
proz 18 205 United States
1 Mar 2008 4:40PM
#1 is superb Joolz, wonderful tones good conversion.
CrownJoolz 16 7 United Kingdom
1 Mar 2008 5:55PM
wow - never expected this much help - many thanks. Have done a severe crop of that troublesome sky (uploaded as version 2) and can only wish I'd made this the main picture - it's so much better. Thanks all - I really DO appreciate the advice xXx
akw 15 341 3 England
1 Mar 2008 6:01PM
Like the tones in these images and iv'e learned how to do the sky too ...bonus
TonyFrith 15 3 6 United Kingdom
1 Mar 2008 6:39PM
I told you to keep it on & the version 2 which was not on when I commented earlier is very good
Coleslaw 17 13.4k 28 Wales
1 Mar 2008 8:32PM
the crop works much better IMHO as it now keeps your eyes on the figure in the photo.
CrownJoolz 16 7 United Kingdom
1 Mar 2008 8:38PM
I agree - 2nd version much better
EllieEdge 15 15 42 Norway
2 Mar 2008 9:04AM
mrswoolybill has a very good point. Especially since the "edge" to the sky is a bit soft. The type of sky you possibly choose should be from a similar lighted day. It is also possible on days like this to afterwards take a picture of only the sky, with the correct exposure for the sky alone, as a possible sky replacement later.
Bodiewil 15 46 Wales
3 Mar 2008 7:42AM
Leave the Sky it's a classic mono... great work Joolz

marktc 12 101 15 United Kingdom
16 May 2011 9:21AM
Love the image, I'm new to all this so can't comment on the tech side of things, but I just want to go and help carry the bags!!!

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