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andytvcams 18 10.4k 1 United Kingdom
18 Jul 2009 8:01PM

Quote:Uploading at a quiet time, in a hope not many people will see this

Wrong. Wink

chase Plus
15 2.2k 566 England
18 Jul 2009 8:16PM
Well done Cheryl,I wouldn't have thought this was you,I like the idea of the anonymity in a SP.
Terry L 17 609 5 England
18 Jul 2009 8:22PM
Quite time, how wrong can one be, nice idea and I certainly wouldn't have guessed this was you.

Boyd 17 11.2k 11 Wales
18 Jul 2009 8:39PM
csurry 19 9.2k 92
18 Jul 2009 8:45PM
Hah, hah Boyd, well I did always like Clint Eastwood movies.

Thanks all. Was going to go for something totally anonymous.
JJGEE 16 7.9k 18 England
18 Jul 2009 8:50PM
Although I'm not in the buddy group cannot let this pass without a comment.

The concept of using the hat to give a sense of anonymity, we do not know it is really you Wink together with the arrangement of the lighting picking out certain features, such as the stitching is excellent.

The B&W conversion is particularly good with you having managed to convey the complete range of tones, something that lets a lot of B&W images down when viewing on a monitor.

In fact, for me, the quality is what I would expect to normally see on a darkroom print.

The only small observation I would make is that the lighting on your shoulders is not balanced, the right one being just a little stronger than the left

You may have had trouble deciding on an idea, but this one is certainly worthy of an upload,
shandoor 12 1 United Kingdom
18 Jul 2009 9:21PM
Very wrong not a quite time EVER reminds me of MAFIOSA love it a great shot super in mono very well done
RogBrown 14 3.1k 10 England
18 Jul 2009 9:43PM
Veeeeeery nice Cheryl, but can't reconcile this with your pf shot. Agree with Boyd here! Smile
pluckyfilly 14 351 33 United Kingdom
18 Jul 2009 9:57PM

Quote:Quote:Uploading at a quiet time, in a hope not many people will see this Wrong.


and I second this statement, different if not unusual
banehawi Plus
17 2.5k 4247 Canada
19 Jul 2009 12:18AM
This is good Cheryl, - love the hat and the backlighting

Scutter Plus
13 1.7k 6 United Kingdom
19 Jul 2009 10:20AM
Great idea very well executed (wouldn't have expected anything lessSmile). (I am guessing this didnt help you - the expectation that yours would be good I mean). The lighting is very effective and although I agree that it might be better if the back light was balanced left and right of the shoulder I don't think it is critical. What is really well lit is the braiding and crown of the hat; it really shows off the texture.
HectorRivera 13 17 1 United States
19 Jul 2009 12:25PM
Great lighting, well realized.
csurry 19 9.2k 92
19 Jul 2009 2:16PM
Thanks all.

The reason it may not look much like my portfolio shot could be because I have lost nearly 3st in weight since that was taken.

The light at the back started more central, but probably me fidgeting to get central and I did not quite get that right.
tigertimb 13 40 66 United Kingdom
19 Jul 2009 5:25PM
Smile Smile Why am I not surprised Cheryl Wink

I was going to object because surely a portrait should convey something about the person and let you get to know them a little better. But on reflection this is you and hiding from the camera is exactly what I'd expect you to do, so in hiding you've revealed yourself!

And excellent job with the lighting combining the clarity of the face, silhouette and backlighting too.

Not sure if it would work or not, but I'd be curious to see a version with selectivly colouring that familiar hat?

csurry 19 9.2k 92
19 Jul 2009 5:28PM
Thanks Tim, I did consider leaving some colour, or going for a sort of sepia tone.

Indeed I don't like being in front of the camera, and that showed in every portrait that I tried to take, so thought why not try something like this.
Coleslaw 15 13.4k 28 Wales
20 Jul 2009 12:46PM
I am not sure.
I think the lighting is too much on your face, it is just a bit too wash out for me. I would like to see more play of highlight and shadow on the face as well, just like the hat.
Scutter Plus
13 1.7k 6 United Kingdom
20 Jul 2009 1:16PM

Quote:I am not sure.
I think the lighting is too much on your face, it is just a bit too wash out for me. I would like to see more play of highlight and shadow on the face as well, just like the hat.

But that might show up the wrinkles..................not that there are any I'm sure Wink
csurry 19 9.2k 92
20 Jul 2009 2:05PM
Nah I sort of agree Cole, but I put it down to my dodgy B&W conversion.

Plenty of wrinkles Ben Smile
Nick_w 14 4.3k 99 England
20 Jul 2009 5:46PM
Cheryl I tend to be in agreement with Cole, the flash doesn't seem to be quite balanced, the face (RHS as you look) tends to be a bit bleached, and the rim lighting on the LHS (shoulders is a bit too strong), I would have prefered it a bit more like it is on the RH side.

I like the concept the sense of mystery, and you dont have to get the eyes in sharp focus Wink

The mono treatment is pretty effective - It may be worth looking at the channel blend to try to get more detail, a touch more of the blue or green channel should reveal a bit more detail (no not as much as in mine!!).

Oh and congrats on the diet
Pete 20 18.8k 97 England
21 Jul 2009 8:41PM
No way would I have thought this was you...and then I read 3 stone loss...blimey that rowing machine works then! Wink Well done.
csurry 19 9.2k 92
21 Jul 2009 10:39PM
Thanks all.

I agree the light is a bit harsh, I tried many variations in positioning the flashgun, but basically I think my conversion left a little to be desired. The idea of increasing the blue or green channel is probably correct, but since I stopped using a plug-in for this I find it hard to visualise the best settings with just the channel mixer (which is what I used). I found the image looked a little flat when I upped the green or blue from this setting, but maybe adding a gradient map after the conversion has increased contrast too much as well.

Yes Pete the rowing machine is working well. You never know at this rate I may be able to attend Focus and not be recognised by anyone that has not seen me for a while Wink Harder to keep losing now I am living in hotels again, but at least staying constant for now. Will need to try to push on to lose last 20lb.
User_Removed 17 16 1 United Kingdom
21 Jul 2009 10:42PM
like it

discreetphoton Plus
16 3.5k 20 United Kingdom
24 Jul 2009 11:53PM
Jumping right in:
Bright spot near the right rear of the brim that could go.
There's a bit of light wrap on the hat, directly where your left eye would be. I still can't decide how I feel about it. On the one hand, it draws away from your face. On the other hand, it's shaped almost like a cat's eye, and for that reason, I quite like it. It also breaks up what would be a large expanse of even toning, which would weigh the hat down too much, I think.
Most of the other stuff's been covered. The lighting on the face actually looks okay on my screen, and I like the rimlit shoulders. Extra points for doing something different.
I guess at the next Focus we'll get an idea of how succesful Zorro's 'disguise' really was... Smile
v8dunc 14 333 4 Scotland
27 Jul 2009 12:17AM
Crit Buddy,i think all the technical points have been covered allready,i think the image portrays an air of mystery rather than a dislike of the wrong side of the camera.A strong moody image

Cheers Duncan

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