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Dying to be Thin

By culturedcanvas
Well yesterdays image provoked a little bit of discussion which can only be a good thing .. and certainly seemed to polarise opinions.

On that basis I thought I'd continue the trend and upload something else which may, or may not, be uncomfortable viewing.

Once again not quite my usual EPZ fodder but comments welcome. From a series examining the pressure to look 'good' within society ...

Tags: Photo journalism Portraits and people

Voters: PeteWilliamson, millymcb, casson and 37 more

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PeteWilliamson 15 545 2 Isle of Man
6 Aug 2008 10:28AM
It could get to the point were people are uncomfortable saying they like them.
Again, I saw the picture.. and then had a look at the title.. and for me the title does nothing for the image... purely because the image says everything very clearly.. and when in the series is very clear about where it fits in and how.
I like it.. its a story in a handful of pictures.

culturedcanvas 15 4.7k 59 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2008 10:35AM
Pete ...

We're back to the titles .. and yes hopefully the image does say it all. I DID choose the title carefully ... the main reason being to make it stand out in the gallery if someone caught a glimpse of the word "dying" ... Wink

You could be right about people being uncomfortable about 'liking' certain shots. It would be interesting to see the comments and clicks on some of the photo journalism from some of the theatres of war. I wonder how well award winning shots of dying soldiers would 'do' on epz ?????
casson 14 3 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2008 10:41AM
Well captured the picture says it all
BubbaG2000 13 767 1
6 Aug 2008 10:41AM
I have been close to a couple of girls who were victims of eating disorders and although I cannot relate to it, I have certainly witnessed their struggle and pain, and it is certainly painful to watch. In my (humble) opinion, this picture is in no way offensive, but it really does represent a majority of those feelings in one, I can only assume, hard to capture image. Very well done!
conrad 16 10.9k 116
6 Aug 2008 10:43AM
Title is appropriate, imho. Too many people do just that. And since I didn't see the previous image (will have a look in a moment), and wasn't aware of a series, I think the title as a choice is justified.

Having said that, I do agree that the image itself does present the whole story. In fact, it works very well indeed.
kaybee 16 7.4k 26 Scotland
6 Aug 2008 10:47AM
Again - pricking the social conscience and pushing the bounderies a bit.

Having the toilet seat up might have made it even stronger ...... after all - a woman lifts the seat to be sick.

culturedcanvas 15 4.7k 59 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2008 10:48AM

There's more to come ... as well as trying to create strong single shots for this series. I worked to link a couple of series together to give me flexibility in terms of a photo essay. Ill post a few more shots over the next few days .. someo f which fit into the story .. some of which hopefully make their point as a standalone image.
angej 15 479 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2008 11:14AM
I think the title does the image justice and ties in nicely with the series. It's a subject very close to most women's hearts believe me. I understand completely the look on the model's face as the scales don't say what she wants them to say.
Very emotive subject area Dan and I think you have captured it very well here.
challicew 12 1 1 South Africa
6 Aug 2008 11:17AM
Personally, I think that you have done an amazing job at creating a very real scenario that is rampant in the world today! It is so good to open our eyes to the reality of the peer pressure on women today!
Your photographic skills are superb! The light, the detail, the perspective...Brilliant!
PeteWilliamson 15 545 2 Isle of Man
6 Aug 2008 11:45AM
I'm not saying the title doesn't do it justice... just that its really not needed.
I think its great when you stumble upon an image that requires no explanation..
Part of me wonders if the creator didn't think we'd get it.

Its not always the case though.. titles can be good.

culturedcanvas 15 4.7k 59 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2008 11:51AM

Quote:Part of me wonders if the creator didn't think we'd get it.

It would be difficult not to get it. However I come from a gallery background where titles are the norm so although I don't always feel they need one, I do nethertheless tend to assign one.

Though yes a title can get someone to open a thumb on a site like this. The series as a whole is also entitled "Dying to be Pretty" ... so the link is there too.
PeteWilliamson 15 545 2 Isle of Man
6 Aug 2008 1:06PM
For sure... and I wasn't really directing the "part of me wonders if the creator didn't think we'd get it.".. just in general, I sometimes get the feeling the "artist" is confident enough that the image portrays the intended message so a title comes into play... which is fine and dandy.. but as I said.. its nice when ones isn't needed.
PeteWilliamson 15 545 2 Isle of Man
6 Aug 2008 1:30PM
sorry... I meant isn't confident enough that the image portrays the intended message...doh!
6 Aug 2008 2:19PM
The title and image together are very thought provoking. Nice work.
6 Aug 2008 6:21PM
very good photo Dan. the only thing I can't figure out is the door lol. Guess it must be the wide angle, but it just doesn't look like it's build too well or will ever close lol
BrokenAir 12 20 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2008 7:12PM
Nice shot, i do like when photography make you sit back and think ^_^
culturedcanvas 15 4.7k 59 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2008 8:41PM
Just come back to this after leaving it on a low heat all day. Not that shocked to find it never reached boiling point .... although I did expect a little more conversation over the subject matter! I'll root out a few more shots along this theme and post them too ....

Thanks to those who have clicked and commented.


PS Koen - yeah the door was sturdy enough did shut Smile .. def down to the wide angle ... I did wrestle with having the door closed, and went that route in some shots but leaving it open just looked visually better and I felt was more natural indicating the woman was alone in the house ... as though weighing herself was something she waited to do .. yet still had the door partially closed out of natural instinct from her covert actions.
Paul Morgan 19 19.5k 6 England
6 Aug 2008 10:21PM
Very good Dan, though to me it just looks a little too over staged and tidy.

Would be great if the lighting was a little more dramatic adding to the drama.
culturedcanvas 15 4.7k 59 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2008 11:06PM

These were issue that niggled me .. but I chose not to go the mass drama route mainly because I didn't want to cloud the issue ...I felt the story in the shot was strong enough and had enough drama without all the trimmings.

As for being over staged thats a trickier one. I did leave the towell and marks on the walls and areas which need touching up which I would normally remove in PS. I did move items from this bathroom though for this shot ... although in others I did leave clutter in there. I'll post something this week with more clutter and higher drama in terms of lighting as I did do a few that way Wink
Paul Morgan 19 19.5k 6 England
7 Aug 2008 6:51PM
Maybe its just me, whenever I`m in the bathroom taking a bath or shower I always leave a pile of cloths in a heap Smile

As for lighting i just thought having the bathroom light off and the door slightly open thus casting light into the room that way, as if she`s about to be disturbed Smile
culturedcanvas 15 4.7k 59 United Kingdom
7 Aug 2008 8:03PM

Did shoot one along a simliar line but it didnt work as well. This one still hasn't got the light on ... the lighting's all flash. It was a difficult choice really but just using ambient light and the door open really didn't show enough of the models face .. which was crucial to the shot. I can see your point though ... that said this is still my fav shot from the series I think .. and whilst not as well received on here it has been well received elsewhere.


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