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Bloomin Heather...

By Dennis_Bromage
Thanks again to everybody who comment yesterday it was great to get some honest opinions Smile

This is earlier the same evening taken in some quite harsh but really beautiful light. I don't often take this sort of shot but am intending to do a lot more this summer so would welcome some honest & frank critiques. I guess realistically this is all about the light and glorious summer colours, does it work?

LARGE might be wirth a peak.

Cheers and I hope you enjoyed looking at the image Smile

Tags: Landscape and travel


Paul_R 11 5 2 England
30 Jul 2010 2:10PM
Works for me, with the possible exception of the white buildings in the middle left of the image. through on a larger image they certainly add to the composition.
Light looks good, wonder if a good polarizer would of helped saturate the summer colours and reduced reflections on foliage.....
Good to see images taken in this light.
banehawi Plus
16 2.3k 4160 Canada
30 Jul 2010 2:30PM
An attractive image Dennis. The light is not as subtle as yesterdays shot, but the exposure is well controlled and the bright light paints the tops of the ground cover nicely.

Landscape photography is not my forte Dennis, so Im coming at this from perhaps a different perspective. In you portfolio pic I see you using a filter, and wonder if the shy looks better stopped down a little more, so its tonally in a similar range to the foreground.

Theres a shadow bottom right that might be the photographer (not likely, but looks like a person to me) so I would crop to remove part of this, and also place the horizon a little lower.

the large version is worth a look, and I think the view of the distant buildings adds to this rather than detract.

Ive stopped down the sky and cropped the bottom in my mod.

Hope this is helpful,


Dennis_Bromage 13 45 20 United Kingdom
30 Jul 2010 2:31PM
Thanks Paul. I don't think a polarizer would have done much as I was shooting almost directly into the sun. I had to actually stand in front of the camera and use my hand to cast a shadow over the front element or I got really bad flare. I think you're spot on though I have under done the saturation. I've just had another look in Photoshop and it does definitely benefit from a boost of 10-15%. Thanks for pointing out what should have been obvious Smile
Dennis_Bromage 13 45 20 United Kingdom
30 Jul 2010 2:38PM
I hadn't noticed the shadow but it's definitely nothing to do with me as the sun was just out of frame to the left. Just a hollow in the heather and bilberries I guess Smile

I've been toying with a crop all afternoon and I think you could well be right, trimming a bit off the bottom might help but I'm still not 100% sure as I like the light on that foreground patch of bilberries to???

Interesting comment about the sky. I do use grads in 100% of my shots but was very careful not to make the sky too dark as it was very bright and I wanted the white clouds to be white if that makes sense? Would be interested to know what other people think on this???
Ian-Munro 12 200 15 Wales
30 Jul 2010 4:59PM
I quite like Pauls mod mate. I have been guilty of over gradding skies in the past and its cost me images so this works well for me Den. The reality is that its summer and light is gonna be more harsh but that shouldn't detract from what we see and enjoy. The shadow area is not a problem for me and I wouldn't have noticed it.

To me it looks like an image that was exactly like that on the day, and you have done it well.

Its a plus for me.

30 Jul 2010 5:42PM
This for me Den is a perfectly balanced image. The fact that that Roseberry topping is in shadow supports the combination of shadow and light in the foreground, making it appear very natural.
I do like the slight boost in Pauls Mod.

For me your careful graduation of the sky is exactly right, any darker and the balance of shadowed hill and sky would be lost.

NEWMANP 12 1.6k 574 United Kingdom
30 Jul 2010 7:24PM
The exposure is beautifully handled and i guess there is a fair difference top to bottom of id say at least 0.9 or even 0.9 plus 0.6.
the main thing is its not over balanced and murky like i always seem to manage. (i blame the specs and the rear screen.) the sky looks quite right to me. the light on the foreground is beautiful and the colour of the heather looks bang on and even that takes some getting right.

compositionally im a bit confused. unlike yesterday where you had a foreground strongly leading into the picture, this is a picture of a foreground that happens to have an interesting mound behind it .

i can see the intentional diagonal return edge of frame which links the fg to mid distance but its still fairly tenuous.

to me and its only my opinion, the fore and rear are not really linked. the topping hill feels too small in the frame to be the dominant overpowering feature, and the foreground lovely that it is is not truly a subject in itself so that is not the dominant feature either, i think they work fine and they go together,- and the final result is quite pleasant but i feel its not truly one nor the other.

sorry thats probably not what you expect to hear but its just my opinion.
technically beautiful and ok to look at but a long way off the best that is around from this area IMO

Dennis_Bromage 13 45 20 United Kingdom
30 Jul 2010 8:03PM
Phil why are you apologising? I asked for honest and frank critiques didn't I? Smile

I think you are dead right. There is little or nothing linking the fore and backgrounds. I spent a lot of time searching out the location and composition for the previous image. With this one I think I just saw the beautiful light and went for it without giving the composition as much thought as maybe I should.

I had no illusions about it being the best of anything but if it's pleasant to look at I'm fairly happy with that, for now! Wink
NEWMANP 12 1.6k 574 United Kingdom
30 Jul 2010 8:40PM
because i dont want you to think i am anything but honest in my comments, i respect your ability in terms of ability and vision and therefore its less easy to pass negative comment. what i want to do is make you aware how i see it without being patronising. it would be the same with any of the senior respected members.

the temptation with senior members is to pat backs and its much easier of course not to pass comment at all but thats not like me to hide.
Dennis_Bromage 13 45 20 United Kingdom
30 Jul 2010 9:41PM
Thanks Phil. You don't need to worry about being honest with me but I can understand why you are cautious as I've had a few prickly responses too.

I'm loving the critique gallery. One of the problems I have with voting systems is that people feel that to comment they have to vote so they aren't inclined to offer negative comments. In here the votes are removed so people seam more comfortable being honest Smile

I guess I'm comfortable about my own ability so don't need votes or pats on the back. I would rather have a couple of honest constructive comments than 50 votes any day...
Steve-T Plus
13 56 66 England
31 Jul 2010 11:15AM
I much prefer this shot to the previous upload. The composition is a lot easier on the eye although I do take on Phil's point above. The difference for me is the clear line of sight through the image. However, the real interest for me is the light and shade around the hill. Increasingly I am starting to look for more long lens landscapes as an alternative to "wide" angle. There looks a few possibilities from this vantage point Wink Steve.
adamburton 16 627 11 United Kingdom
2 Aug 2010 4:09PM
Hi Den, This is an absolutely beautiful shot in my opinion. I really like Pauls Mod, it just gives the image an added richness. I have no problem at all with the foreground, I think it is full of interest and leads into the background beautifully.


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