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Ice cream man

By devlin
so ...my first shot in 2 yrs. A bit rusty so may need help around some basics. Image is of a ice cream peddler. Shot was taken on the fly as he crossed me on the promenade at Manila bay. Did some clean up in photoshop on cloning out distractions around the edges. used B&W conversion with green filter tweaked exposure settings a bit. Conditions were cloudy when the shot was taken. V2 is the original as is

PS cant seem to upload versions, original uploaded as mod

Tags: General Black and white Portraits and people

Comments


iancrowson Plus
10 215 168 United Kingdom
11 Apr 2015 11:41AM
An interesting capture, the vendor is in a good position in the frame. Lots to look at too.
Not too sure your exposure and processing was spot on. Looks a bit over exposed to me. The histogram in photoshop shows over exposure, i.e. a lot peaks pushed to the right hand end. You would have been able to see this in camera if you activate histogram feature.
You added 2/3rds compensation which would not have helped.
I've done a mod where I increased all over contrast, mid tone contrast even more and sharped a little.
Click on modifications above to see my mod.
Still a good one,
regards
Ian
devlin Plus
10 653 39 India
11 Apr 2015 12:16PM
Thx for the inputs Ian. point taken on the exposure, iam still trying to figure out my new camera its a eos m2 which is quite a departure from the standard dslrs ive been using prior to this...which probably explains the 2/3rds compensation coz i didnt even realize it was set that ways until i had the shot on my pc and looked at the exif Smile.

thanks for the mod as well looks much better now.
mrswoolybill Plus
13 2.3k 2267 United Kingdom
11 Apr 2015 2:28PM
Hi Prabh, good to see you here again!

On the fly, so improvised - what you have got is a lovely happy face, a man enjoying his work and at ease with the world.

I suspect that your settings were left over from the last time you used the camera, they are not ideal... Get rid of the plus exposure compensation, there are uses for it but not here. The shutter speed was way too slow to capture a moving subject sharply, particularly when he is moving across the frame just in front of you. You did well to get the face so clearly. He was pedalling slowly but I would want 1/160 second at the very slowest... Stepping back a pace you would have got the wheel in full.

But you got the picture, that's the important thing.
Moira
dudler Plus
17 1.3k 1699 England
11 Apr 2015 3:54PM
The EXIF data seems very odd: screamingly high IS for an outdoors shot, though the shutter speed and aperture suggest very low light levels...

I would have expected some plus compensation to work, here, to give detail in the man under the shade, but it all seems a little odd. (I'd also expect to have to do some work from a RAW file to recover highlight detail, but not to the extent that both the mono version and the colour original suggest was needed.)

So there's something funny going on, I reckon, though I have no idea what.

Was this shot in full daylight? Or was the light actually low? That may give some insight into what's gone awry.

n, as others have said, it's a well-caught moment.
devlin Plus
10 653 39 India
11 Apr 2015 4:12PM
thx Moira, its good to be back. appreciate the feedback, i suspect you may well be right re the camera settings.

John - This was taken under cloudy conditions, so yes the light wasnt great plus i reckon it was somewhere around 25 mins before sunset so that could have compounded the issue further. My ISO was set at Auto, another setting which i have since changed Smile

i must admit though that iam struggling a bit with my camera right now, kinda found my DSLR much easier to use, although i can see the benefits of having a much smaller camera as well Smile

Cheers
pamelajean Plus
14 1.4k 2157 United Kingdom
11 Apr 2015 8:20PM
Hello again, Prabh. It's been nearly 2 years since we last had the pleasure of your company in the CG. I'm amazed that you haven't taken a photo in all that time.

I've read everything above and understand the problems you encountered taking this image. It's just a shame that you weren't more prepared because the composition and subject matter are good, and I like the recession of the people on the wall, overlooking the sea, and their happy demeanours.

Thankyou for uploading the original colour version. I much prefer it. There is a lot of good colour in it, and I feel the original has a lot more punch. The happiness and holiday atmosphere is there.

So I have taken the colour version for my modification.
I'd like to have seen the complete wheel in the bottom, but had trouble adding that, so gave up.
You say you have removed a few distractions. I've removed a few more, most noticeably the part-people at either edge and the lady in red who is directly behind your ice cream seller.
I made some adjustments in contrast, too.

Pamela.
paulbroad 13 131 1289 United Kingdom
11 Apr 2015 8:54PM
The content is good and interesting with strong composition. Technically you have a lot of problems. Even for late evening the EXIF looks wrong. The image is a touch soft due to the low shutter speed resulting in camera shake and you are a long way over exposed.

This must be obvious to you? Positive compensation should actually have probably need slight negative and you have a very over bright image with burn out.

I don't think you can correct this image. You will need to master your new camera but it seems the settings used are likely to be the problem rather than the camera.

Get the exposure right. That is an absolute basic requirement and you must learn to recognise correct exposure on the KCD and histogram.

Paul
devlin Plus
10 653 39 India
12 Apr 2015 7:53AM

Quote:Hello again, Prabh. It's been nearly 2 years since we last had the pleasure of your company in the CG. I'm amazed that you haven't taken a photo in all that time.



Yes Pamela 2 long years, after my kit got stolen a couple of years back during a house break in, i just couldnt find the heart to replace it and then there were work pressures which took pre-cedence, since then of course a lot has happened including a relocation from South Africa to the Philippines now. A couple of weeks back the missus kinda insisted i start this again and so here we are Smile.

The mod works well, thank you for your feedback appreciate it as always Smile



Quote:I don't think you can correct this image. You will need to master your new camera but it seems the settings used are likely to be the problem rather than the camera.



Never said the problem was the camera, just that i was finding it difficult to get my head around to using it correctly. Thanks for the feedback though, agree with all the points you make.

cheers
banehawi Plus
16 2.3k 4163 Canada
12 Apr 2015 1:28PM
Hi Prabh, welcome back!

Two mods from me. Was the man on the bike moving?

Settings, apart from the +2/3 are not bad, but Im guessing you did that because his face is in shadow?

It can look a lot better with some post processing that reduces exposure.

Your missus is right, - get back into doing what you enjoy..


Regards



Willie
devlin Plus
10 653 39 India
12 Apr 2015 3:44PM
Thx Willie, the mods look so much better Smile

Yes the bike was moving, i took the shot just as the guy went past me.


Quote:Settings, apart from the +2/3 are not bad, but I'm guessing you did that because his face is in shadow?



like i said above the camera was set to overcompensate in the main settings and i didn't know at the time that's how it was set up. Have changed the setting since then Smile, i guess in a way that's responsible for the face of the vendor coming out since it would have been shadowy under that canopy with the sun setting behind the guy.


cheers

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