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By dianah
I have no useable camera at the moment as we are in the middle of moving and half my camera seems to be in a packing box somewhere. I have dug this out of an old folder as it is a shot that I have always liked.
I very rarely ask for critique which is very silly as I need plenty of advice on almost all aspects of photography.
I tried to capture the light above the water in the middle of the frame but somehow the result isn't exactly what I wanted to achieve. It is all a bit dark but I don't know what to do to change it. I have a very old Adobe 2 but that is all..please can anyone give me some advice or a mod to help me out ! Hello to everyone that just might notice this ..I am still around ! Smile

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franken Plus
15 4.6k 4 United Kingdom
18 May 2010 3:14PM
Hi Dianah, you could try selecting the sky and then inversing the selection. This will let you play with the levels and lightness sliders in photoshop 2 without touching the sky.


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dianah 11 24.5k 4 United Kingdom
18 May 2010 4:59PM
Thank you very much to the both of you. ! Ken, I just don't have a clue about selecting sky and inversing it, I only wish that I did. Are there any books or anything that I can read that will show me what to do !
I only have Adobe 2 and the filters incorporated there..I also have Paintshop but that is all. Thank you very much for the certainly gives me an idea of what can be done !
RonnieAG Plus
8 154 118 Scotland
18 May 2010 5:22PM
Offered a mod. for you - not sure if you'll feel it is any better. Nice shot to stat with though.
Regards, Ronnie.
dianah 11 24.5k 4 United Kingdom
18 May 2010 5:39PM
Thanks Ronnie .. I really like the increased blue levels. This is so interesting to see so many variations !
dianah 11 24.5k 4 United Kingdom
18 May 2010 5:41PM
STUART!!! I love this mod..thank you so you have to tell me what you did though. A beautiful light.
f8 14 9.2k 22 England
18 May 2010 5:42PM
Hello Di, great shot, made a mod for you,a little lightening and a bit of contrast added. I gave it a touch of yellow photo filter to take the harshness from the blue tint caused by the ultraviolet light. And a crop off the top.
Hope you like it.
How's the house moving going?
dianah 11 24.5k 4 United Kingdom
18 May 2010 5:56PM
I love it Stuart..and thank you so much for explaining what you did. I must be mad not to have taken the opportunity to go for a critique is so interesting and informative. The house moving is at a standstill as the builders are not starting work until the 1st June now but we are all sorted and looking forward to when all the work does start. Still no useable camera though but I have plenty of photos in files. Lovely to hear from you.
pamelajean Plus
12 1.1k 2008 United Kingdom
18 May 2010 6:03PM
Hello, Dianah. This is a lovely scene and I especially like the light on the water. The mountains look a bit hazy, and this can be remedied, unless of course you like it like that. I have done a modification and will take you through the procedure I used in PaintshopPro, so you should be able to follow it. Let me know if you need any help.
5th tool down, left menu, Crop tool. Mouse on square centre top until you get arrows, pull top down, getting the picture to look as if there is one third foreground, one third water and mountains, one third sky, or thereabouts.
3rd tool down, left menu, Selection tool. Choose freehand selection>point to point>replace, no feathering, tick anti-alias. Zoom in. Run tool across image, you can stop, start, delete if necessary, following line of shore beneath mountains. Take tool up, over and down, so you've selected the top of the picture. Double-click at the end.
Top menu. Adjust>Brightness/contrast>Levels. Use slider to get 25/149/255. OK.
Top menu. Selections>Invert. Now you have the bottom selected.
Top menu. Adjust>Brightness/contrast>Levels. Use slider to get 7/106/204. OK.
Selections>Select none. Selection disappears.
Left menu, below Paint Brush, click on it, lots of brushes you can use. Choose Dodge Brush (lightens), opacity about 20, and paint over the light top of the mountain. More if you like. Zoom in to do this.
Same option, choose Burn Brush (darkens), opacity 25 or thereabouts, paint furthest mountain, the one at the skyline.
I also used this to paint the whole of the sky because of the few very light areas there.
I bought a very good book for PSP, from Amazon I think, and they do books for other editing programmes, too. I also managed to get a good tutorial on the web by just googling for PaintshopPro. I then printed it off. You will get a lot of help from the programme itself if you use the Help option, too.
dianah 11 24.5k 4 United Kingdom
18 May 2010 6:21PM
Thank you so much Pamela..your mod is just what I was aiming for but couldn't seem to get it right and I just don't have the expertise to change it in PS. I will go through what you have told me here and make sure that I understand it. I will also ask for critiques far more often and read through other people's critiques is all so interesting and to think that I have been a member for over three years and not spent time here before.
I am so very grateful to you..I will look at PaintshopPro as well.
andymark 8 1 England
18 May 2010 7:40PM
i love it it is and amazing shot
gingerdelight 11 298 11 United Kingdom
18 May 2010 8:15PM
I think all the above suggestions and Mods are really good - although it is a great composition to start with. Great to see you again!
dianah 11 24.5k 4 United Kingdom
18 May 2010 8:34PM
Thank you Andymark and really good to see you too Carol..very many thanks to you as well.
18 May 2010 9:13PM
As an old fashioned film photographer who hasn't realy got to grips with all the technical stuff above (to be honest it might as well be in a foreign language) I think that this is an excellent landscape shot. Fantastic DOF, good eye lead in and most important great distant blue on the hills. If this had come up in front of me on the circuit I would have happily given it 19/20. Keep shooting natural shots, they're a lot better.
dianah 11 24.5k 4 United Kingdom
19 May 2010 10:42AM
Thank you so much..what a lovely thing to say. I feel a little less guilty at my lack of scientific knowledge.
Mynett 9 142 6 United Kingdom
19 May 2010 10:48AM
a lovely scene and some great advise above

dianah 11 24.5k 4 United Kingdom
19 May 2010 4:45PM
Thank you Linda..lovely to hear from you again.
Ray42 10 3 England
20 May 2010 5:44AM
A lovely scene - sold me on a visit there - some good advice from which we all learn too
dianah 11 24.5k 4 United Kingdom
20 May 2010 12:44PM
Hi Ray..the advice has been brilliant, I am so grateful to everybody !
ChiliMan 11 135 17 Singapore
20 May 2010 3:38PM
You mean you want to highlight/emphasize the light thrown onto the mountains?

I would suggest selecting the mountainy bit (if you've got the Smart Edge option under freehand selection that would be good - I have that in PSP X but I don't know anything about PS2 I'm afraid) and then adjusting from there.

You could try Highlight/Shadow. Or Gamma Correction to brighten and then increasing shadow in small increments. Or even just Brightness/Contrast. The selecting part is key, though. Once you've managed to select the region you want, then you can play around and find which adjustment suits the sort of light you're after Smile

dianah 11 24.5k 4 United Kingdom
20 May 2010 6:11PM
Thank you Andrew . I am not sure that I can do all that with Adobe 2..I will have a search. I also wanted to bring out the light in the water which Pamela managed to do and has explained how. I am keeping all these pieces of information to work on..I think I need the Idiot's Guide to Photoshop..I find it all so difficult but having more time very soon should make it easier.
ade_mcfade 14 15.2k 216 England
24 May 2010 11:42AM
first thing I notice is the nice V shape of the hill is mirrored by the V shape of the trees, a kind of wonderful natural refelction.

You've got a lot of feedback that I've not read to appologies if I repeat any of it Smile

Main thing to benefit you when shooting this would be ND grad filters - that would darken the sky and also allow you a longer shutter speed to brighten the ground. The trees here are really dark and more refelction off the lake would have been nice.

If possible, waiting around a few minutes to see if the clouds parted to shed some light on the trees would also have been pretty cool - imagine a bright patch of green amongst the dark.

Also, in dark areas like the lower trees, be careful with the sharpening as that may add in noise - hard to tell with a 1000 pixel image, but it can add in unwanted fuzziness.

Finally... nice to see a square cropped landscape image Smile
dianah 11 24.5k 4 United Kingdom
24 May 2010 8:35PM
Thank you Ade. I have got filters and should have had them with me but didn't ! The V shape I hadn't noticed but I do see what you mean and will take care in future to try to reproduce interesting shape into the image.
If you had seen where I was standing you would see why I couldn't wait for the sun..I was in danger of my life with traffic hairing around a bend in the road. Smile
I will certainly take care with the is something that I do and realise that I go one step too far at times.
Many thanks to you ! Smile
27 May 2010 7:28PM
Beyond perfect dianah. Smile

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