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High dynamic range

5 Dec 2020 8:18AM   Views : 514 Unique : 325

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I have a sneaking feeling I may have blogged about this before Ė but I canít find it. And maybe I havenít: anyway, Iíve spent a while this evening exploring a module of Nik Efex that I havenít played with before, the HDR Efex Pro 2 filters, to be precise. As far as I can see, thereís no facility to combine frames of the same subject with different exposures, so itís important to focus on the word ĎEfexí Ė what the Nik plugin will give you is the effect of HDR, and not the reality. For that, you will need specialist software, such as Photomatix, or the right part of Photoshop.

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I decided to play with the results on an old image of my friend Joceline Ė and having found several interesting effects, I realised that nudes arenít quite the thing for a blog on which you canít set an Ď18í filter! But I may post one or two in the main gallery soon.

Instead, I went to some equally-old pictures I took poking a camera over the boundary wall of Whitby Abbey (it was closed on the say that I went there with an old friend and his wife). I managed to get a shot of the Abbey with the sun and an interesting sky behind it, and I tried a couple of filters on it. The top image here is a straight image from the RAW file, without adjustments: the second is the result of adjusting highlights, shadows and contrast Ė Curves users can, Iím sure, achieve a more subtle and nuanced result.

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The third image down has the look that many of us associate with ĎHDRí Ė and some of us dread. An overall blue tint, and low contrast Ė the view through an elderly teacherís glasses, perhaps? There are no rich blacks, and thereís a general feeling of being weak and lacking punch. HDR is for controlling excessive dynamic range, not producing an image that lacks contrast.

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Other looks are available in the Nik package, of course, and they arenít all awful, but Iím not sure that any of them are particularly worthwhile, for most images. The final version is the result of making two files from the original RAW: one plus two stops exposure, the other minus, and combining them in Photomatix. This sometimes works to bring out shadow and highlight detail in images where the contrast range has defeated the sensor.

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But all of this is dodging the real question, about proper, five-image HDR. Iíve been meaning to go out and have a bash at doing that Ė but the weatherís been so grey that the challenge is expanding the contrast range to give impact, not controlling a 16-stop tonal range. And the cold rain has not given me any incentive to put a camera on a tripod to take the necessary repeated shots: a minimum is three images (normal exposure, and plus and minus two stops), and the experts often prefer more images, and sometimes a greater exposure rangeÖ

The tripod is necessary to ensure that the field of view is the same, and Aperture priority is the best option, as depth of field needs to remain constant. When the sun shines, Iíll try it! (And blog again.)

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dudler Avatar
dudler Plus
20 2.1k 2048 England
5 Dec 2020 8:22AM
The essence of this is that the aim of HDR was, originally, to tame excessive contrast ranges, and not rob ordinary scenes of contrast. It's become a sort of special effect, rather than a specific technical solution for difficult light conditions.

Please feel free to argue, and to give me your own HDR adventures and thoughts. The views expressed here are my own, and don't reflect any official EPZ line - though I believe one or two of the other members of the Critique Team may have similar thoughts...
kaybee Avatar
kaybee 19 8.7k 28 Scotland
5 Dec 2020 9:32AM
The key to getting it right is to remember that 'Reality is Key'..............we see black and we see white (although most judges appear to differ on that view) se the best images will retain those tomes (if they were there in the first place).
If you can't tell it has been done in the final image you have got it right as far as I am concerned.
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saltireblue Plus
13 14.5k 89 Norway
5 Dec 2020 9:58AM
The three most important words when it comes to using HDR - whether the real thing combining several images of varying exposure values, or using software effects, are;
moderation, moderation, moderation.
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chase Plus
18 2.5k 682 England
5 Dec 2020 10:40AM
I use HDR quite a bit, especially in mixed lighting situations, but, overdone the result can look pants, especially if the tone mapping is pushed to the limit.
I do use Lightroom for the process, it's nice and gentle and with a little work, gives me the result I want.
Photomatix I find can be very harsh.

You can use Nik with several frames, just open them in Photoshop>file>automate>HDR Efex Pro and use 'open images' it's not bad and you get the chance to do a little jiggery pokery before saving the HDR file. It will then appear back in Photoshop and you can continue your processing as you see fit.
3 frames I find enough for me, generally 1 stop apart but to capture even more, 5 frames and 2 stops is probably the 'norm'.

Quote:If you can't tell it has been done in the final image you have got it right as far as I am concerned.

A good way of thinking Roy.

Quote:moderation, moderation, moderation.

Very important.
dudler Avatar
dudler Plus
20 2.1k 2048 England
5 Dec 2020 11:16AM
Thank you, Janet - I had a memory that the ability to combine images in the HDR module was one of my reasons for buying Nik in the first place, but I never really pursued it. HDR and models don't mix well, on the whole...

Roy - well said.

Malc - moderator, moderator, moderator! Also well said!
mistere Avatar
mistere Plus
10 37 8 England
5 Dec 2020 4:54PM
FYI. You can combine frames of the same subject with different exposures in HDR Efex Pro 2. Go to File - open images - then select the frames you want to use. The images have to be taken with different exposures though. It works with bracketed images or consecutive images taken with different exposures. It doesn't work with copy's of the same image that have been previously edited.
dudler Avatar
dudler Plus
20 2.1k 2048 England
5 Dec 2020 5:36PM
Cheers, Dave! An important distinction that it won't do the different exposures thing - a trick I learned from Willie, aka banehawi.
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dark_lord Plus
19 3.0k 836 England
5 Dec 2020 9:05PM

Quote:to tame excessive contrast ranges, and not rob ordinary scenes of contrast. It's become a sort of special effect, rather than a specific technical solution for difficult light conditions

So very true, and there may be many who don't know that's what HDR is all about, to them it's just an effect.

Quote:overdone the result can look pants

The 'fascination' caused by using an 'effect' can make one oblivious of a horrendous result.
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