Online editing tuition

Of course, the perfect solution to this problem would involve people with knowledge of multiple editing suites - Paintshop Pro and Gimp2 as well as elements and Photoshop. And what about Lightroom, Affinity and the rest?

Of course, the perfect solution to this problem would involve people with knowledge of multiple editing suites - Paintshop Pro and Gimp2 as well as elements and Photoshop. And what about Lightroom, Affinity and the rest?

I tend to learn by trial and error as well as pp articles in magazines that catch my attention, with the occasional tip from a fellow tog or 2 Chris

I tend to learn by trial and error as well as pp articles in magazines that catch my attention, with the occasional tip from a fellow tog or 2

Chris

This one of the best tutors for Photoshop, lots and lots of free video downloads. Learn at you own pace. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSRlEl6raTzjc6ju4VvucJA/videos You could also try you tube and search for Phlearn 30 days of Photoshop. Another excellent structured series.

This one of the best tutors for Photoshop, lots and lots of free video downloads. Learn at you own pace.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSRlEl6raTzjc6ju4VvucJA/videos

You could also try you tube and search for Phlearn 30 days of Photoshop. Another excellent structured series.

I used Photoshop CS6 for years and never fully understood layers and then watched a youtube video and things just clicked. I've bought into a couple of online courses, but really haven't used them very much. I do tend to used youtube videos, which are a bit variable in quality, but they do allow you to pause and rewind. Some of them also give you links to download the assets so you can try the stuff yourself. I now subscribe to Adobe Photoshop and Adobe has a lot of helpful stuff as well, and the latest version has lots of additional stuff that makes things easier. I find remove background particularly useful and the change sky is also very good, especially as you can upload your own skies. There are still lots of things in the program I'm not totally sure about or don't even know about! The best sort of tuition would be to get someone to give you some advice when you hit a brickwall. Learning Photoshop is a lot about repetition and getting to know the short cuts, it's taken me a number of years and when I look at my portfolio on here I can see how much I've improved, but also how my style has changed too. I buy assets to use with my photographs as well as making my own, things like textures and overlays. I also use a number of plug-ins like the NIK filters. I know people think Adobe Photoshop is expensive but the basic package is the price of a couple of pints a month. My package also includes Lightroom, but I've never used it. We also subscribe to Readly which for a monthly subscription gives access for five people to a large number of magazines and newspapers, including back issues which are viewed on-line. There are at least 5 photography magazines and 4 photoshop magazines as well as the Adobe Photoshop manuals, and again you can access back issues.

I used Photoshop CS6 for years and never fully understood layers and then watched a youtube video and things just clicked. I've bought into a couple of online courses, but really haven't used them very much. I do tend to used youtube videos, which are a bit variable in quality, but they do allow you to pause and rewind. Some of them also give you links to download the assets so you can try the stuff yourself.
I now subscribe to Adobe Photoshop and Adobe has a lot of helpful stuff as well, and the latest version has lots of additional stuff that makes things easier. I find remove background particularly useful and the change sky is also very good, especially as you can upload your own skies. There are still lots of things in the program I'm not totally sure about or don't even know about!
The best sort of tuition would be to get someone to give you some advice when you hit a brickwall. Learning Photoshop is a lot about repetition and getting to know the short cuts, it's taken me a number of years and when I look at my portfolio on here I can see how much I've improved, but also how my style has changed too.
I buy assets to use with my photographs as well as making my own, things like textures and overlays. I also use a number of plug-ins like the NIK filters. I know people think Adobe Photoshop is expensive but the basic package is the price of a couple of pints a month. My package also includes Lightroom, but I've never used it.
We also subscribe to Readly which for a monthly subscription gives access for five people to a large number of magazines and newspapers, including back issues which are viewed on-line. There are at least 5 photography magazines and 4 photoshop magazines as well as the Adobe Photoshop manuals, and again you can access back issues.

I would never need to pay for - or be willing to pay for - online tuition, as there is a vast wealth of YouTube tutorials which more than cover all my needs and wishes, not to mention skills level, on my processing software of choice, Affinity Photo.

I would never need to pay for - or be willing to pay for - online tuition, as there is a vast wealth of YouTube tutorials which more than cover all my needs and wishes, not to mention skills level, on my processing software of choice, Affinity Photo.

I should put this in the full context: someone asked about getting specific feedback on edits of their own picture, with commentary and guidance on editing it afresh. YouTube doesn't do the job, nor does any ordinary online course: my question is specifically about getting the answers that one needs without having to do an extensive search of existing material. Doing that search is often problematic, especially if one isn't a fast typist, or if one chooses to search for something by a different, descriptive name, and not what a YouTuber called it! And I'll agree with Chris - I learn best by learning a very few ideas to start with, then having someone to ask about the next thing I want to learn. I don't want to follow someone else's structure, which often involves seventeen ideas that I really am not interested in for the moment. So, for instance, when Moira (mrswoollybill) suggested Nik Efex for mono conversions several years ago, that was MUCH more helpful than a suggestion that I use Layers, which don't offer a way to do a good mono conversion in Elements (which I used at the time). I still use Nik - but it was only last summer that i started to grapple with Layers. The reverse is when someone wants to take portraits, and I suggest they buy an 85mm lens. It is NOT the same as setting a 24-105 to 85 - but that will probably do for most people for a year or two, if not for ever.

I should put this in the full context: someone asked about getting specific feedback on edits of their own picture, with commentary and guidance on editing it afresh. YouTube doesn't do the job, nor does any ordinary online course: my question is specifically about getting the answers that one needs without having to do an extensive search of existing material. Doing that search is often problematic, especially if one isn't a fast typist, or if one chooses to search for something by a different, descriptive name, and not what a YouTuber called it!

And I'll agree with Chris - I learn best by learning a very few ideas to start with, then having someone to ask about the next thing I want to learn. I don't want to follow someone else's structure, which often involves seventeen ideas that I really am not interested in for the moment. So, for instance, when Moira (mrswoollybill) suggested Nik Efex for mono conversions several years ago, that was MUCH more helpful than a suggestion that I use Layers, which don't offer a way to do a good mono conversion in Elements (which I used at the time). I still use Nik - but it was only last summer that i started to grapple with Layers.

The reverse is when someone wants to take portraits, and I suggest they buy an 85mm lens. It is NOT the same as setting a 24-105 to 85 - but that will probably do for most people for a year or two, if not for ever.

I wouldn't pay for an online editing course. Both Affinity and On1 Photo Raw have extensive tutorial content on their websites. At no extra cost if you've purchased one of their products. They both have free tutorials on You tube as well. Subscribing to their channels gives you loads to work with. True for PS as well i imagine. Tuition is helpful when trying to learn the basics, practice and patience are needed to learn how to use the programs effectively. Most of us learn how to do the things we want but don't really use the majority of the functions of our editing programs .

I wouldn't pay for an online editing course. Both Affinity and On1 Photo Raw have extensive tutorial content on their websites. At no extra cost if you've purchased one of their products.
They both have free tutorials on You tube as well. Subscribing to their channels gives you loads to work with. True for PS as well i imagine.
Tuition is helpful when trying to learn the basics, practice and patience are needed to learn how to use the programs effectively. Most of
us learn how to do the things we want but don't really use the majority of the functions of our editing programs .

I wouldn't pay for an online course or tuition because there's plenty of stuff out there as a resource already. The software companies want you to use their products effectively so that's the first place I'd look. I build on what I know, so if a technique requires layers which I'm already familiar with then that's half the battle won. But then I'm happy to play around and experiment with software. Some people would be happier with a live one to one session, just seeing and being shown is very effective for them no matter how detailed a text based 'fact sheet' could be. If you're doing one to one then one computer is fine, but for groups it's handy to have another machine logged into the session to act as a monitor. I'd need to update my laptop if I had to do that. Over 15 years ago I started doing webinars, to groups and individuals. Group sessions covered set topics, one to one sessions were bespoke. It was possible o se wht the other person was doing, to talk them through, to take control of their machine and guide them through if needed, so you didn't need the particular software on your computer which was useful when there were people using diffent versions such as Office 2003 or 2007 for example at one point. What you needed to avoid was a long day by talking to colleagues in Asia first thing (UK time) and on the US West Coast mich later the same day! I don't know what or if there's any good free software out there to run effective tutoring sessions. Professional webinar software such as Webex and Adobe Goto meeting rrquire costly accounts and are fine for corporate environments so anyone providing online tutoring would need plenty of clients for it to be worhwhile.

I wouldn't pay for an online course or tuition because there's plenty of stuff out there as a resource already. The software companies want you to use their products effectively so that's the first place I'd look. I build on what I know, so if a technique requires layers which I'm already familiar with then that's half the battle won. But then I'm happy to play around and experiment with software.
Some people would be happier with a live one to one session, just seeing and being shown is very effective for them no matter how detailed a text based 'fact sheet' could be.

If you're doing one to one then one computer is fine, but for groups it's handy to have another machine logged into the session to act as a monitor. I'd need to update my laptop if I had to do that.
Over 15 years ago I started doing webinars, to groups and individuals. Group sessions covered set topics, one to one sessions were bespoke. It was possible o se wht the other person was doing, to talk them through, to take control of their machine and guide them through if needed, so you didn't need the particular software on your computer which was useful when there were people using diffent versions such as Office 2003 or 2007 for example at one point.
What you needed to avoid was a long day by talking to colleagues in Asia first thing (UK time) and on the US West Coast mich later the same day!

I don't know what or if there's any good free software out there to run effective tutoring sessions. Professional webinar software such as Webex and Adobe Goto meeting rrquire costly accounts and are fine for corporate environments so anyone providing online tutoring would need plenty of clients for it to be worhwhile.

I have found YouTube to be good, but variable according to the tutor. I don't buy magazines regularly, but a cover disc got me started with Lightroom as well as a Martin Evening book. His books often have a CD included or downloadable samples

I have found YouTube to be good, but variable according to the tutor.

I don't buy magazines regularly, but a cover disc got me started with Lightroom as well as a Martin Evening book. His books often have a CD included or downloadable samples

I know a lot of people on here are anti camera clubs but they could help any member for free! I have picked up lots of tips and tricks over the years from members, and we even have open tutorial evenings on members images where they may be struggling to get what they want/saw from their image. We have several members that are quite skillful in various software and are always available to give their advice freely. of course it will mean joining a club. Ian

I know a lot of people on here are anti camera clubs but they could help any member for free!
I have picked up lots of tips and tricks over the years from members, and we even have open tutorial evenings on members images where they may be struggling to get what they want/saw from their image.
We have several members that are quite skillful in various software and are always available to give their advice freely. of course it will mean joining a club.
Ian

Thanks, Ian - I'm sure that one-to-one tuition is the answer for some people, and a club is a perfect way of finding it, assuming there's a club in the area - true for most of us, but not for everyone.

Thanks, Ian -

I'm sure that one-to-one tuition is the answer for some people, and a club is a perfect way of finding it, assuming there's a club in the area - true for most of us, but not for everyone.