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So what do YOU say?

5 Feb 2021 8:05AM   Views : 493 Unique : 356


How much information do you give on your pictures? I ask because everyone who ever posts in the Critique Gallery has to click past a warning that we need full information about intentions, concerns, processing and so on – yet an awful lot of people fail to provide even complete EXIF data. I’ve seen pictures posted that – on questioning – turned out to have been shot through polarising filters, house windows, or from coaches on the move. EXIF: please ‘Save as’ not ‘Save for web’ – the latter strips out the EXIF.

If you want help and feedback, there are plenty of people who will give it – and you owe it to them to give them a good start: it’s unlikely that you will tell them everything that they need to know, but please do tell them anything that you think is special, good or bad! It’s hard enough to analyse pictures at the best of times, without having to play guessing games, so please help the Critique Team by – at least – not deliberately keeping secrets.

But it’s not only a thing that I notice in the Critique Gallery. In my specialist area, working with models, it feels like a courtesy to other photographers to tell them who the model is, and the name of the studio, if one that is bookable was used… Quite apart from that, if a model is good and you’re pleased with the results, you maybe owe it to her to let people know, so that she can continue to make a living from modelling. So many people don’t give credit where it’s due (and I’ve said before that every studio session with a model is a collaboration…)

So I always aim to tag both model and studio, and anything else that you might want to know if you like the look and want to do something similar – and also let you know if things have changed so that a particular area isn’t available any more – such as the marvellous five-storey fire escape at SS Creative Studios. If there’s not enough, please feel free to ask. I know of one photographer who meticulously tags his captive field mice as such. Something that I particularly appreciate is when photographers who’ve taken images at workshops I’ve run mention this – again, if other members like the results, maybe there’s more business for me…


As they say, if there’s a problem, please tell us first: and if you like what we do, tell your friends…


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20 2.2k 2064 England
5 Feb 2021 8:09AM
So - the useful stuff about the pictures:Joceline, photographed with a Meyer Optik Trioplan lens. Someone I don't know photographed near Earls Court Underground station. A self-portrait shot with the aid of the rear screen on my Alpha 7 and a wall mirror. And Victoria Summers (still modelling, currently offering remote shoots) on that lovely staircase at SS Creative Studios (sadly, no longer available).
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19 3.0k 836 England
5 Feb 2021 12:34PM
I used Save for Web in the early days of epz. It was what most people did and was a hangover when small images used on the web generally could be made maneagable as the exif was a large component of file size. For some I guess it removes the need to think to convert to sRGB.
For many years now I've included exif. The exceptions are things like Film Friday where exif is patchy (i.e. wasn't written down at the time).

All my digital images have captions as do my thousands of transparencies.
Where appropriate I do include more information such as on my recent upload of light painting in the snow as some may find it interesting or useful.

But I agree that in the Critique Gallery it's important to give as much information as possible regarding the shooting parameters and conditions (not the history of the subject for example, as some do). It helps people make informed suggestions, so for exmple we wouldn't say 'you should have used a tripod' if we knew the shot was taken from a moving boat.
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Chrism8 17 1.1k 34 England
5 Feb 2021 1:19PM
The lighting works well on the stairs, draws your eyes down the stairs and straight to Victoria, particularly with everything other than the stairwell lit, I would have cloned or cropped out the top of my softbox thou Smile.

As darklord, I also add exif into the subject line as I do use " save for web " on uploads although don't use the critique gallery very often or at all.
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5 Feb 2021 4:11PM
I wondered about the softbox, Chris - I considered cropping, but that would lose context. And as I do quite quick edits for my blog, I didn't even try cloning.

You've also, beautifully (but embarrassingly) illustrated the 'forgetting to include essential info - that it was a joint shoot, and you'd brought the lights... Sincere apologies!
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Chrism8 17 1.1k 34 England
5 Feb 2021 5:19PM
LOL, no problem John, In the context of your post it was ironic and I was trying to be tactful Smile

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5 Feb 2021 8:38PM
The irony, temporarily lost, has circled round and got me...
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Jestertheclown 15 8.8k 255 England
5 Feb 2021 9:25PM

Quote:EXIF: please ‘Save as’ not ‘Save for web’ – the latter strips out the EXIF.


Not necessarily . . .

By default (I think) the EXIF is removed but there are actually several options re. what it does, or doesn't, save.
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20 2.2k 2064 England
5 Feb 2021 9:58PM
Thank you - that's worth knowing. The problem, of course, is that people tend to use default settings - and the default is, indeed, to remove all, or nearly all the data.
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Jestertheclown 15 8.8k 255 England
5 Feb 2021 10:08PM

Quote:The problem, of course, is that people tend to use default settings


I think that it's set to remove-by-default to minimise the size of the files but it would be better; to my mind, at least, if it worked the other way around.

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