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Irishkate Plus
10 45 121 United Kingdom
23 Apr 2021 9:08AM
A brilliant image albeit an industrial scene John!
KateGrin
cooky Plus
17 6 3 United Kingdom
23 Apr 2021 9:21AM
My point exactly John!!! A picture is worth a thousand words! You can smell the sulphur from here!

Maybe even photo journalism tag?

Well done for making your point so eloquently!

Kath

cooky Plus
17 6 3 United Kingdom
23 Apr 2021 9:21AM
PS...

That goal post needs straightening please...WinkWinkWink
dudler Plus
17 1.6k 1841 England
23 Apr 2021 9:40AM
It was the Seventies... straight goalposts were strictly for League Division One!
Chrism8 14 981 28 England
23 Apr 2021 9:52AM
Given it was the 70's its a surprise they are still there and not half inched Wink
23 Apr 2021 9:55AM
Absolutely, John.

JohnSmile
AltImages 1 1
23 Apr 2021 10:05AM
A really nice night shot John.

As for wind turbines I'm of the opinion that the government should designate turbine sites such that if the locals don't want turbine power the land can be used for other energy-related applications such as the burying of nuclear waste etc and get nimbys to choose which option they prefer!
dudler Plus
17 1.6k 1841 England
23 Apr 2021 10:24AM
That sounds like a kind of predicament torture for NIMBYs...

TongueTongueTongue
cats_123 Plus
17 5.1k 30 Northern Ireland
23 Apr 2021 10:36AM
Powerful imagery 😁
23 Apr 2021 10:46AM
hammering the argument ------ cool !
Minty805 Plus
4 42 9 United Kingdom
23 Apr 2021 11:29AM
All in the eye of the beholder, I suppose. An aesthete might find purity in the simple shapes of the stacks, albeit the wider area is very industrial looking, but of course it's what comes out of them. History's view of all this will doubtless be mixed and interesting.
23 Apr 2021 12:17PM
Hammering both argument & image John ! Agree with Cats upstairs - powerful
jacomes Plus
6 28 38 Portugal
23 Apr 2021 12:28PM
Wind turbines do have some grace, most hilltops around here are lined with them. Preferable to fields of solar panels, which should be on every roof.
James
mrswoolybill Plus
14 2.8k 2404 United Kingdom
23 Apr 2021 12:35PM
I agree with James about turbines, they are sculptural, elegant, and an eloquent expression of the power of nature. And we look across the valley at a fine set. But industrial sites generally can be amazingly photogenic. The Hope Valley cement works being a case in point...
23 Apr 2021 1:26PM
I'm all for replacing coal power stations with green power, but I think many people have a slightly romantic notion about wind power. Rugeley B had a capacity of 1000MW and it would require around 700 typical wind turbines operating at full capacity - which they rarely do, so say 1200 wind turbines to provide the same power - and that's when there is wind.

PS - like the photo !
David
AltImages 1 1
23 Apr 2021 1:34PM

Quote:That sounds like a kind of predicament torture for NIMBYs... TongueTongueTongue


Well government should be all about giving people a choice and an opportunity to be involved in the decision making process! Lol
dark_lord Plus
17 2.8k 768 England
23 Apr 2021 3:16PM
A good 'blue hour' capture and a scene in the UK at least almost consigned to history.
dudler Plus
17 1.6k 1841 England
23 Apr 2021 3:31PM
HL Mencken wrote that 'Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.'
Owdman Plus
5 6 20 United Kingdom
23 Apr 2021 3:42PM
I'm with David, wind turbines can look graceful, but not when they're in their hundreds. Depends if you think some landscapes benefit from rows of often motionless turbines. Smile That view out to sea these days is often just a few out to the wind turbines.
Great photo by the way. As regards Democracy as Churchill said: Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.
Norm
23 Apr 2021 4:59PM
Gagging just looking at it.
23 Apr 2021 5:12PM
I feel compelled to butt-in here!

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENNED IN MALTA

OUR CONSTITUTION AND HENCEFORTH PARLIAMENT WERE STRUCTURED TO HAVE A HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ------ THE SYSTEM WORKED FLAWLESSLY AS EVERYELECTED REP HAD THE POWER TO VOTE AS HE DEEMS FIT IRRESPECTIVE OF ANY OTHER LINE OF THOUGHT OR BELEIF.

HOVEVER THE MODERNIZATION OF THE POLITICAL PARTY EVOLVED INTO HAVING ALL THE MEMBERS WITHIN ITS STRATA TO VOTE EXACTLY IN LINE WITH THE PARTY LEADER. MORESO EVEN HAMMERING THE FACT THAT THOSE WHO DO NOT FOLLOW ARE PENILIZED BY OTHER PARTY MEMBERS OR HIGHRANKERS.

HENCE THIS SO CALLED ''DEMOCRACY'' IS FUNNELLED DOWN TO ALL RULINGS DECISIONS HARD-SHIPS TAX IMPOSITIONS BLA BLA BLA COME OUT FROM THE ''PRIME MINISTER'' AND EVERY ONE ELSE NODDS AND VOTES IN LINE (OR AGAINST IF IN OPPOSSITION BUT ALSO FOLLOWING THE SAME RULE OF TOTAL BRAINWASH) ALL LIKE BLEETING SHEEP OR GOATS.

HENCE MODERN DEMOCRACY HAS IN ACTUAL FACT BECOME A DICTATORSHIP WITHIN EACH TURN AND TERM OF POLITICAL PARY ELECTED.

AND WE ARE ALL MERRY AND HAPPY!!!!!!!!!

EDWIN CATANIA
JuBarney Plus
9 33 5 United Kingdom
23 Apr 2021 5:15PM
They are all a blot on the landscape but this a smashing shot,
Ju
23 Apr 2021 5:54PM
i go the grocery store and buy a lb. of sliced ham wrapped in plastic, a loaf of bread in a plastic bag, a gallon of milk in a plastic jug, a pack of napkins wrapped in plastic, a Greek salad in a plastic container, a plastic bottle of mustard and a plastic bottle of ketchup, and they won't give me a plastic bag for carrying it home because the plastc bag is bad for the environment...
p.s. and wind turbines are not ugly
23 Apr 2021 6:37PM
I would much rather have a solar farm near me then wind turbines any day ......the millions of birds and bats killed annually by the turbines is alarming ...and we wonder why bird populations are dropping so fast. Our leaders are talking about putting in dozens of small supposedly safe nuclear reactors in locations around our province... pick your poison I guess... Good discussion generated.
best regards walt
rontear Plus
18 23 9 England
23 Apr 2021 9:00PM
Love the grain !! John. My award.
Ron
dudler Plus
17 1.6k 1841 England
23 Apr 2021 11:01PM
Norm - Churchill and Mencken are not necessarily opposed to each other...

Edwin - any system hinges on the integrity of individuals: for anyone who wants a good laugh in the light of current British politics, search for the Nolan Principles. They should be tattooed on the forearms of all politicians, and a part of how they think. But it apparently isn't so.

Walt - there's been discussion of bird deaths on a few recent pictures - I have visited a few wind turbines, and fond no piles of corpses. I think that there's an urban myth developed round this - maybe a fossil fueller exaggerating claims by a wildlife protectionist...
stevenb Plus
17 281 7 England
23 Apr 2021 11:46PM
Cracking shot John
All the best
Bill
23 Apr 2021 11:57PM
It seems we are damned if we do and damned if we don't. Wind turbines in theory kill birds and bats. Hydro power kills fish. Fossil fuel kills everything. And the nuclear thing just scares the hell out of me. It would be an interesting study to determine the number of birds that die in turbines compared to the number that are being killed by pollution. I'm willing to bet on pollution having a far greater number.

But assuming wind turbines are taking a significant toll, surely some ingenious engineer can come up with a screen of some sort. Or a sounding device to scare them away. Surely to God if we can put a man on the moon we can develop turbines designed not to kill birds.

So for those who don't want fossil fuels, but worry about birds in wind turbines or fish in hydro power - hands up how many are will to go without electricity. The point is we need it and we have to find ways of producing it that have the least environmental impact. I doubt we will ever find a way that have no environmental impact.
pablophotographer 9 1.9k 405
24 Apr 2021 1:55AM
We lost the ball...
24 Apr 2021 8:56AM
Nigel_NZ 15 26 2 New Zealand
25 Apr 2021 3:51AM
John as you would know, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, well I find this quite beautiful in a brutalist way, and with my upbringing in rural Berkshire, all this was so far away, and also now far back in time.
The people around there with any respiratory ailments would be glad to see it closed. But how many turbines are needed to make up the short fall?
Powerful (pardon the pun) image.

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