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Advice please!!

By frogsrcool
Would really appreciate some advice on photographing birds in flight. Went to Bentley Wildfowl centre and tried panning as some of the ducks took off. Was pleased to get a photo that was recognisable - but i know i have a long way to go to get a decent shot. What do i need to do differently

Techi bit - ISO 100, F/11, shutter speed 1/25 sec. A novice at understanding the camera settings so forgive me if i haven't written it correctly!! Smile

Tags: Wildlife and nature

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User_Removed 13 268
15 Apr 2005 9:41AM
I can't give you advice I am afraid (you should see my hovering chaffinch I attempted yesterday!) but I really like the diagonal movement lines in the background and admire you greatly for getting this shot as well as you did. CLick. Ali.

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Rock Plus
14 10 2 England
15 Apr 2005 9:52AM
Yes !
bengsays 11 13
15 Apr 2005 10:03AM
Maybe trying the 'sports' setting on your camera would work well. This way the bird would be in focus and then the backround would blurr...something to try, although its never as fun using preset things and its also hard to control perhaps, but worth an attempt
DannyD 11 9
15 Apr 2005 10:13AM
this works for me real nice sense of motion in the duck, good blurred background, with some nice colour, well framed,
Eden Plus
12 40 Germany
15 Apr 2005 10:35AM
I like it as it is...lovely movement (but my bird pictures are not memorable!)
csurry 14 9.2k 92
15 Apr 2005 10:54AM
It's a great impressionist version of a duck taking off.

If you were trying to get a sharp shot then the shutter speed is your problem. If you were trying for a panned shot, then this is just about right.

You probably don't need f/11. For most birds f/8 is more than sufficient and for this type of shot, you may have gotten away with f/5.6

Sorry don't know much about the 300D so can't help with the various modes.

important thing is to decide the type of shot you want and set the aperture or shutter speed accordingly.
Ade_Osman 13 4.5k 36 England
15 Apr 2005 11:16AM
You could try using the sport mode of the 300D, but the shutter speed can be a little too quick using this method. My fave settings for in flight shots are 1/250 to 750sec, F5-6 to F8, ISO400 to 800, and use AI Servo for the focus. With the exception of the focus mode, I know the setting I stated are a little vague, but a lot depends of the light you have, but I'd have said these setting are good for a start. No problems with the lens you are using, but be prepared to screw in and out the zoom fairly quickly to get the shot.

You could have a look at denise, csurry, klewis or may I be so bold as to suggest my portfolio and find some in flight shots as I usually give out my camera settings.....That might give you some ideas......Hope this helps, good luck and keep perserving!

BTW, this shot is not a bad effort considering the light is not so hot.

snapperstan 11 235
15 Apr 2005 11:19AM
you definitely need to be up above the 2ooth shutter speed for inflight stuff

i would stay in shutter priority TV, AI focus and let the camera sort the aperture out for you
snapperstan 11 235
15 Apr 2005 11:20AM

and ISO 400
simons 12 13
15 Apr 2005 11:40AM
Suggest using Al servo and setting either shutter priority or aperture priority as mentioned above. Ade's portfolio and the others he mentions are well worth looking at.
One other suggestion would be to go on a photographic day at a bird of prey centre and try various settings. I have been to the Barn Owl Centre a couple of times and vince, portfolio is really helpful working with you to get some excellent flight shots
frogsrcool 12 9 United Kingdom
15 Apr 2005 1:54PM
thanks folks for all the helpful advice. I was trying to learn how to pan the ducks without using the sport mode, just so i could learn to set things myself. There is a lot of useful advice here that i can take away with me when i next find some ducks. Thanks again everyone - much appreciated
brian13 12 218
29 Apr 2005 1:38PM
Looks good to me Karen.
Does everything have to be in focus, I am working at this now and looking at other people's work in print. Everything is good for its own purpose. Let the camera do what it does best.

bexter 12 99 Scotland
16 Aug 2005 7:18AM
Great shot, I would be really pleased to get something like this from a panning shot - haven't had a try at that yet though! Good luck in your future attempts!


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