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Disco Camouflage

By Jasper87  
Two images of HMS Belfast et al, taken on two different shutter speeds to show the difference in settings.
They were both taken, one after the other, with small apertures and at 27mm on the same lens/camera.

v1 - 20 secs at ISO 100
v2 - 1/2 sec at ISO 1000

Both have needed 'de-noising' especially v2!


(my wife prefers v2 as it looks more natural!)

Tags: London Night Low light Tower bridge River thames Hms belfast Tower of london Landscape and travel

Voters: andylea, CarolG, Russell_Charles and 124 more

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CarolG 11 199 20 Greece
31 Jan 2013 7:26AM
V.1 for me, Dave (sorry, wife Wink), I like the brightness of it. Carol

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31 Jan 2013 7:35AM
Dave. Had you not put the fact you used two different shutter speeds I would have said the difference was white balance. The second having a cooler tungsten feel to it. Just goes to show what latitude we have. You have managed to place three iconic site (not including the Thames) into one razor sharp shot. V1 for me as it reveals a little more detail. Both fantastic shots.

With my impending move to CW I will probably see you up there Smile
nonur Plus
9 17 13 Turkey
31 Jan 2013 7:37AM
Amazing difference. V2 looks more natural all right, but V1 is a seamless night image, delightful to see, Dave. The colours and reflections are marvellous among other things to be mentioned.
31 Jan 2013 7:47AM
A wonderful night shot - V1 works best for me Smile

netta1234 6 382 2 Wales
31 Jan 2013 7:50AM
I must say I like them bothSmile
franken Plus
15 4.6k 4 United Kingdom
31 Jan 2013 7:50AM
Version 1 for me Dave - love it!

31 Jan 2013 7:54AM
Anabsolute superb night shot. I really love V1, Dave SmileSmileSmile - am very envious of that one!!! GrinGrin

31 Jan 2013 8:02AM
An excellent night shot. V1 also for me Dave, colours and reflections are amazing
Hermanus 5 4 South Africa
31 Jan 2013 8:08AM
Both are excellent Dave and I cannot make up my squirly mind here Smile I love the colour in this !!
AnnChown Plus
8 207 1 United Kingdom
31 Jan 2013 8:14AM
I prefer v1 Dave (sorry to disagree!) but an interesting experiment showing the different results achievable for a novice like me at this type of camera work. Love the colours and reflections. Nice one Dave!
fentiger Plus
17 918 24 England
31 Jan 2013 8:17AM
You do this low light photography so well Dave ~ definitely No. 1 for me.

LynneJoyce Plus
10 20 99 United Kingdom
31 Jan 2013 8:21AM
Breaking ranks here, I prefer V2.
NaturesHaven 6 283 6 England
31 Jan 2013 8:28AM
V1 for me..................this verjavascript:;sion has more punch and vibrancy..........GrinGrinGrinGrin
Two wonderful night shots. What I like is the light with the subjects close to each other being close to each other
giving overall light. So this makes V1 top of the pops with light detail and natural reflection colour.
Well done Dave. WesternRed.
Richsr 11 91 223 England
31 Jan 2013 8:47AM
Well composed and timed here Dave, good low light capture
Regards Richard
Humblebee 6 1 England
31 Jan 2013 8:49AM
As soon as I saw the thumbnail I knew it was yours. Definitely V1 for me - so full of colour, reflections and panache ... Carol Grin
morpheus1955 11 3 2 United Kingdom
31 Jan 2013 8:54AM
Two superb images Dave, the same but so very different, amazing what a difference the iso can make Smile for me it has to be V1 but I like them both Smile

31 Jan 2013 9:01AM
Two wonderfully contrasting images, Dave!
I just exemplifies how the same view can be seen so differently through the same lens!
Excellent, as always!SmileSmile

rayme330 6 17 1 United Kingdom
31 Jan 2013 9:03AM
Two great shots Dave, cannot decide on a favourite they both have their own merits.

Tibetan 6 3 England
31 Jan 2013 9:05AM
Two great shots Dave, this is what we have come to expect from you, quality photo's mate no doubt about it! both meet your high standards, regards Leon.GrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrin
mrswoolybill Plus
11 1.2k 1929 United Kingdom
31 Jan 2013 9:09AM
Isn't it amazing the difference that time can add. V1 is my preference here - unusual for me because V2 is more 'capture the moment', with the ripples and harsher light. But V1 is magical.
Interesting how the balance between the different lights varies according to the shutter speed.
This one is for Bill really, he will return.
Trev_B 11 151 68 England
31 Jan 2013 9:17AM
Two smashing images....V1 was the right choice to lead with as the colours are wonderful.

woolybill1 Plus
11 23 72 United Kingdom
31 Jan 2013 9:19AM
I suppose in optical terms, V1 benefits from the phenomenon of persistence of vision.
Put another way, V2 is what we actually see while V1 is what we think we see Smile
And despite my usual grumpy demeanour I'm a bit of a romantic at heart . . . So I'll go for V1.

I hope to visit HMS Belfast when we're next in London: last year the access ramp was being refurbished. I gather that my father was on board as stills photographer for the BAFPU on 6/6/1944. But I won't be there at night!
johnlw 11 1 10 United Kingdom
31 Jan 2013 9:29AM
I like v1 best it's so hard to get the exposure just right on these images without any burn out.
Realy good image.

Regards John
O it sure is v1 for me, was there just before Christmas never took my camera went on board Belfast enjoyed the time I had there, cracking capture good shutter speed lovely detail v1 all the way for me Dave.

NDODS 7 5.1k 125 United Kingdom
31 Jan 2013 9:40AM
Although it is not your intention both images for me add a rather fun and frivolous disguise to what the Battle Ship once stood for. This for me makes a mockery of those who have served and fallen at the hands such formidable Naval hardware.

Regards Nathan
User_Removed 8 48 1 United Kingdom
31 Jan 2013 9:45AM
Two super images Dave, No1 gets the vote.
Regards, Alf.
RonnieAG Plus
8 154 118 Scotland
31 Jan 2013 10:04AM
This is an excellent lesson in how colours can vary with exposure times: the lighting on the ship remains similar but the b/g colouring and that on the river is totally different. Now which do I prefer? Not having been there to see the scene, I do not know which is the more accurate (although I note your wife feels V 2 is the more so) but the more accurate would be what I would be trying for. As it is, in my ignorance, I shall have to settle for 1/2 vote to each version, Dave.
No matter, it is as always from you a lesson in excellent shot of the river and HMS Belfast........and no matter what one's feelings are about 'decorating' such a ship in lights, it does make for a fab. shot.
danbrann Plus
13 637 17
31 Jan 2013 10:11AM
It's all been said before Dave so I will go for V1.
lonely_oryx 10 61 55 England
31 Jan 2013 10:28AM
Stunning colours in both. V1 is my fav
Rende 11 38 4 Netherlands
31 Jan 2013 10:43AM
Wonderful night shot Dave. I particularly like V1 because of the colours and the smoothness of the water.
mossy 5 46 1 England
31 Jan 2013 10:47AM
V1 gets my vote.
SlowSong Plus
9 7.4k 30 England
31 Jan 2013 11:06AM
V1 really shows the advantage of having a tripod. Two totally different looking shots. Interesting. Smile
Irishkate Plus
7 41 114 United Kingdom
31 Jan 2013 11:53AM
Definitely V1 for me - it is much more subtle and shows up the reflections better.
I can't imagine V2 being completely natural - it's sooooo blue!
jasonrwl Plus
8 1.1k 10 United Kingdom
31 Jan 2013 12:26PM
Fantastic Dave but it is definitely v1 for me - the lighting on the great ship is so much better.
achieverswales 7 8 101 Wales
31 Jan 2013 12:32PM
Both awesome captures and would be worth of its own upload, V1 just edges it for me for colour saturation, V2 on exposure so equal votes Dave.


saeidNL 8 3 Netherlands
31 Jan 2013 12:37PM
Two beautiful and great images indeed,V1 is my favorite,
31 Jan 2013 12:48PM
best tell the wife she has no damn idea but i hasten to add she may have a poinr TongueWink

Daisymaye Plus
9 23 16 Canada
31 Jan 2013 1:02PM
V1, a beautifully captured image. .....Sandy
31 Jan 2013 1:17PM
Superb colors, composition, reflections, timing, ... a masterpiece.

AnneWorner 10 620 43 United States
31 Jan 2013 1:25PM
You must have been out to capture the Blue Hour - a wonderful time of night for images. I prefer v1 as to my eye it looks the most natural wrt the reflections in the water.

almiles 8 38 102 United Kingdom
31 Jan 2013 2:23PM
V1 feels more natural for me and shows off the colours and detail to better effect. Important when, as others have pointed out, you've managed to get 3 landmarks in (over-achiever!) without it feeling too busy. The right hand bank is a bit distracting with the bright lights but without it the ship drifts in the water Wink it needs the lead in from the back. This is one of my favourites from your London images. Smile
31 Jan 2013 2:30PM
V1 for me too - I love the brightness of it!
31 Jan 2013 2:38PM
Two wonderful images Dave. Displays the effect of different exposure times on an image. I prefer V1 as it looks more natural to me
EAS 9 1 13 Scotland
31 Jan 2013 2:52PM
Fascinating to see the two versions. I'm going for V1.

saltireblue Plus
8 8.1k 33 Norway
31 Jan 2013 4:10PM
Just humour the missus, Dave. "Yes, Dear, of course, Dear, absolutely, Dear"
I prefer the more natural, to my eye, look to V1.
But at the end of the day, you and I are mere males, so what do we know? (I am assuming you also prefer v1)Grin

HELANA 8 United Kingdom
31 Jan 2013 4:26PM
Grate to see the difference between the two shots Dave,Love them both but V1 has a litle lest contrast, so it has my vote. Stuning images as always. Superb.
9 10 10 England
31 Jan 2013 4:56PM
V1 does it for me Dave - it just seems so alive and vibrant.
6 3 8 United Kingdom
31 Jan 2013 6:08PM
I was surprised to see the variation in colours between the the two shots, quite remarkable! V1 is my clear winner but glad you uploaded both versions. Great work on a well composed shot!Grin
Philip_H 6 1 United Kingdom
31 Jan 2013 6:23PM
V1 for me, Dave - a superb capture and great pov. Love the 3 main focal points and the illuminated lead-in on the right.

gajewski Plus
13 10 9 United States
31 Jan 2013 6:32PM
Dave, once again I have learned something from you. This is the beauty of this site. Thank you for a wonderful demonstration of the effect of different exposure times. I will certainly pay your fee when I get your invoice in the mail. I only hope the rest of us follow suit.

Here is my politically correct assessment of V1 vs. V2:
1) I like V1 for the eye-popping colours (see, I can spell in British)
2) I like V2 because it looks more natural. (you're welcome, wife of Dave)

By the way -- does Her Majesty, Elizabeth II, know about this boat? How dare they muck up our view of the Tower Bridge. :-(
pluckyfilly 11 351 33 United Kingdom
31 Jan 2013 6:50PM
Exceptional work, I like them both maybe V1 by a short thread for the wider picture
jdinne 15 16 England
31 Jan 2013 6:54PM
God knows Dave they are both brilliant Smile

bobsblues 8 10 2 United Kingdom
31 Jan 2013 7:04PM
Never mind the technicalities Dave have my award for brilliance love them both.SmileSmile
31 Jan 2013 7:32PM
Brilliant Dave, have an award on me.

John Smile
LexEquine 12 19 United States
31 Jan 2013 7:35PM
'Two Superb night Image Renditions' ~ LEx Wink
EOS_fan 7 27 England
31 Jan 2013 8:27PM
Excellent shots, definitely v1 for me Smile

jaktis 14 84 Sweden
31 Jan 2013 8:27PM
A cracking example of the shutterspeed effect

Chinga Plus
7 3 1 United Kingdom
31 Jan 2013 9:17PM
WONDERFUL! Amazing night shot... IB
marktc Plus
7 101 15 United Kingdom
1 Feb 2013 6:34AM
Two real gems Dave, sorry to disagree with Mrs Dave, but v1 is my choice and gets the award!
johnke 5 223 15
1 Feb 2013 9:05AM
Photography. Painting with light. Very well painted.
wolfy 14 36 United Kingdom
1 Feb 2013 9:08AM
Brilliant work Dave, deffo V1 for me Smile
DixClix 9 2 United Kingdom
1 Feb 2013 10:24AM
Two brilliant images both sharp and clear but version 1 is definitely my favourite: the colours are just so rich and full!
1 Feb 2013 11:30AM
2 fabulous shots but i think i'm leaning towards v2 just brcaud i like the subdued lighting effect
Fefe Plus
6 23 31 United Kingdom
1 Feb 2013 12:03PM
I would love to read all the comments, but its like bloomin "War and Peace"TongueTongue
V1 for me without a doubt..................... absolutely STUNNING Dave, I love all the vertical coloured lights reflecting in the water and the lights in general are brighter and sharper. Tremendous imageGrinGrinGrin
xwang 9 56 8
1 Feb 2013 1:58PM
Wonderful colour and light control... I think that I prefer V2. The light is more gentle than V1's. How interesting the different ISO produces such different images...Good to try.
BTW, thank you for your comment about shutter speed, Dave. Still, a bit baffling..I need to find out a little more.
phil99 11 45 6 United Kingdom
1 Feb 2013 2:59PM
Ver 1 for me it' s simply stunning .....Phil
NeilWigan Plus
7 17 16 England
1 Feb 2013 4:29PM
V1 for the colour.
derekhansen Plus
9 210 24 United Kingdom
1 Feb 2013 9:26PM
Absolutely love V1 Dave, but you know I am a sucker for a long exposure.
meniko 7 Cyprus
1 Feb 2013 9:36PM
Prefer V1 not only because of the wonderful coloured reflections.
From time to time I am onboard of a huge containership for a 2 month voyage( Europe-China)
So I know the scenerie quite well
You did a great job here, Dave!!!
ChiliMan 11 135 17 Singapore
2 Feb 2013 6:36AM
My goodness...HOW stunning are these shots??? Definitely V1 for me for the colour and light AND the ones in the water...but both are wonderful captures of this beaut Smile

Well worth all the awards Smile

bill33 Plus
7 36 1 Scotland
2 Feb 2013 8:33AM
Top class work once again Dave, your low light image are always a pleasure to view. V1 for me here, I think your exposure is spot on. Beautifully done my friend, Bill.
2 Feb 2013 3:59PM
A master piece.
Sue_R Plus
12 11 6 United Kingdom
2 Feb 2013 5:36PM
Definitely V1 for me.

Sue Smile
capto Plus
6 5.2k 8 United Kingdom
3 Feb 2013 9:20AM
V1, a knock-out shot.

Stunning shot Dave.
V1 for me there is more vibrance.


3 Feb 2013 6:08PM
Superb light, Dave! V1 for me without doubts Smile
The main thing for this ''discotheque'' - let music from these long ''flutes'' will be playing as rarely as possible ...
Regards Valery
JimV 11 6 3 Canada
4 Feb 2013 5:48AM
Very interesting to see the difference and to see just how much control we have while still being able to say hand on heart "straight from the camera"! As others have said Dave, V2 is probably the truer to life image, but V1 is just so excellent it has to be first choice!
Rgds., Jim
SteveNZ 9 4 5 United Kingdom
4 Feb 2013 10:56PM
V1 Smile
Ayoob 7 Australia
8 Feb 2013 8:30PM
Lovely image and excellent detail and presentation ,Dave- like both..........Grin
13 Feb 2013 11:53AM
like artworks...prefer V1 longtime expo...*top*
13 Feb 2013 3:57PM
Very nice scene! V1 it's more attractive for me.
Glostopcat 12 255 2 England
17 Feb 2013 7:02PM
Fantastic colours and reflections in these night shots

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