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Bishops of Chichester

By James_C
This is the last of this set and is the first one where I have endeavoured to correct the perspective distortions. The picture is of the other very large C16th painting by Lambert Barnard. To give an idea of scale - it is the full width of the North Trancept of the Chichester Cathedral and the full height from the floor to the underside of the north window - around 20ft x 70ft. To give an idea of scale - this picture can be seen on the rhs of the panorama I have uploaded link

Because of its location it created serious difficulties in trying to photograph the picture due to the strong cast from the window immediately above and the fact that the area in front was being used as temporary storage for stageing etc for the Chichester Festivities. To get this picture - I took some 300 shots of the three paintings - see last two uploads for the other large picture - I had to wait until after dark, but with still just enough light coming through the window, and have all the internal lights swiched off.
I used:
Focal length 7.1mm
Exposure 13 sec
Aperture f/1.8
ISO 64 for max quality if my understanding is correct.

I took my laptop into the cathedral and used Photoshop 4 to correct colours and sharpen. I subsequently used GIMP to correct distortions.

This has been a very difficult project to undertake and I am very keen to know if there is anything I could have done differently to get better results without bringing in a full lighting rig.
V2 is the unmodified original.

Thank you very much for any/all input.


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Joline Plus
13 30 54 United States
7 Aug 2009 12:48PM
You did a pretty good job of perspective correction. It takes some practice, but is a great tool to master, especially in architectural photography. I took it into mods with the original, and given the image you were working from, I'd say you did fine! The only other thing I did was a "barrel distortion" correction. I'm not sure whether PSE 4 has that or not. Your color balance was better than I could achieve from the image I downloaded. Keep up the fine work.

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James_C 10 36 56 United Kingdom
7 Aug 2009 12:57PM
Thank you Joline.

banehawi Plus
15 2.2k 4049 Canada
7 Aug 2009 2:34PM
Youve done well with this James, - especially with the geometry. You have a good record shot of a nice piece of artwork.

Not using flash was another good idea. Its a pity you cant upload a panorama size image, - it may well suit this dues to its wide dimensions.

Ive reduced a slight yellow cast in the mod, - and not seeing the original Im not sure if its better or worse; Ive reduced some of the glare from the window above, and increased contrast a little, along with a slight sharpening.


James_C 10 36 56 United Kingdom
7 Aug 2009 2:52PM
Many thanks Willie. Flash is a waste of time in this environment and I'm not sure how one would go about a panorama of this - rotate the camera or move the base so as to be as square on each time as possible.
Colourwise - as I literally sat in front of the picture with my laptop and corrected - I know to be as near as d***it spot on. The glare from the window however - inspite of its being nearly pitch black at the time - is a problem that I'd love to know how you treated.
I'd also be interested to know what settings you used to sharpen as, although I sharpened before posting, my effort isn't as good as yours - particularly at the edges.

Thanks again Willie,

morpheus1955 13 3 2 United Kingdom
7 Aug 2009 3:06PM
Two fantastic images, especially large, great work.

banehawi Plus
15 2.2k 4049 Canada
7 Aug 2009 3:17PM
For the galre I used the shadow/highlight tool in CS3 to reduce highlights. If you done have the tool in your version, you could try using the burn tool set to a set low flow rate and set to highlights, apply it on a layer and adjust opacity to suit.

Sharpening, - I used USM, setting are: Amount = 60%, Radius = 0.8, and Threshold = 3. In general, for sharpening leave the radius and threshold as above, and slide the amount to where it looks good, - a reliable approach for me.

Re pano, - I was referring to the ability on EPZ to use the panoramic size allowance, which is a larger image and file size. I would imagine trying to join multiple shots of this would be a pita!


James_C 10 36 56 United Kingdom
7 Aug 2009 3:21PM
Thank you very much Willie, that's very helpful.

gingerdelight 13 298 11 United Kingdom
7 Aug 2009 4:15PM
I think you have done very well, considering it was inside a cathedral (not an easy environment for photography by any means) and also you have captured a good deal of detail - good work!
x Carol x
James_C 10 36 56 United Kingdom
7 Aug 2009 5:49PM
Thank you very much Carol.

xwang 10 56 8
22 Aug 2009 1:50PM
You did excellent work,nice to learn a bit history ,too.
James_C 10 36 56 United Kingdom
22 Aug 2009 2:06PM
Thank you Xwang


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