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I like the semi-panoramic look to this Greg. Lovely, simple and serene landscape.
Your wildlife images are stunning. Too many to comment on all of them though!
Best wishes, Simon
Your wildlife images are stunning. Too many to comment on all of them though!
Best wishes, Simon
Like your sense of humour Greg Lol. May not be the Golden gate bridge ... but beautiful all the same.... and who needs fog? lol. A really great shot .... love the clouds .... great colours .. and the small version does not do it justice. Nice one! Click*
Karen
Karen
Building up nicely towards that sunset ay!.... is this the river near to the house your moving to!?!
Oh no!... So it will be a under water case for xmas from Ces` and fish next!?!
Nice shot greg, looks like a great place to chill out, love that sky,
Chris.
Chris.
Wow Greg this is good, real good, beautifully exposed, you are far too good at this photography lark.
the only way I could see this shot being improved is with some interest in the immediate foreground maybe some rocks on the riverbank or something just to anchor the shot at the bottom.
I think you have more or less cracked landscapes, what next portraits???LOL
Fantastic work mate
Mo
the only way I could see this shot being improved is with some interest in the immediate foreground maybe some rocks on the riverbank or something just to anchor the shot at the bottom.
I think you have more or less cracked landscapes, what next portraits???LOL
Fantastic work mate
Mo
lovely landscape,i like the composition,great colours.
click samantha
click samantha
Reminds me of Madison County, very rural, composition Lovely angle, and sky cool! greg, nice presentation.
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Agree you're getting better Greg however just a couple of things.
It's a nice composition but it looks cropped - correct? I'm assuming you cropped the sky and so do not have any more water. If so then next time include more water and frame the sky/bridge as you have in this picture. That way it'll give more of a lead in and some extra foreground interest.
The light is nice and level in this so you've got good detail in the shadows and not too much highlight but I just can't help but think that this would really sing if you've got either some early morning\late evening sun coming in from the left of the shot to pick out the bridge and really pick out the shapes of the trees, etc. You'll need filters for the sky but the highlights on the tree/bridge should burn through these and not make the top of the shot too dark.
Sorry, that sounds like a lot of negative comments but it's not and I know you'll take it in the manner it's meant.
I guess it depends on how mucg you want to get into landscapes but as this is just arround the block for you then it's pretty easy to go back and try some of this out.
Having said all that it's a lovely shot and subject.
It's a nice composition but it looks cropped - correct? I'm assuming you cropped the sky and so do not have any more water. If so then next time include more water and frame the sky/bridge as you have in this picture. That way it'll give more of a lead in and some extra foreground interest.
The light is nice and level in this so you've got good detail in the shadows and not too much highlight but I just can't help but think that this would really sing if you've got either some early morning\late evening sun coming in from the left of the shot to pick out the bridge and really pick out the shapes of the trees, etc. You'll need filters for the sky but the highlights on the tree/bridge should burn through these and not make the top of the shot too dark.
Sorry, that sounds like a lot of negative comments but it's not and I know you'll take it in the manner it's meant.
I guess it depends on how mucg you want to get into landscapes but as this is just arround the block for you then it's pretty easy to go back and try some of this out.
Having said all that it's a lovely shot and subject.
lovely shot. think it would work really well in sepia as well
sten
sten
Keith
Its cropped to remove a large amount of the fore ground water, however I can not see the noise, doesn't mean its not there, I just don't see it. I am not sure what you mean by wooden or safe, I live in Virginia, thats what we have, woods. If you could explain what it is you think I should have done different I would appreciate it, I am new to landscapes and to be honest I have no idea what you are talking about. The term safe composition means nothing to me.
Greg
Its cropped to remove a large amount of the fore ground water, however I can not see the noise, doesn't mean its not there, I just don't see it. I am not sure what you mean by wooden or safe, I live in Virginia, thats what we have, woods. If you could explain what it is you think I should have done different I would appreciate it, I am new to landscapes and to be honest I have no idea what you are talking about. The term safe composition means nothing to me.
Greg
Ian (Westers)
Yes it is crop, I had a lot of foreground water and I wanted the bridge to be the focal point and keep the sky. I understand your point, excellent point, next shot I will apply your suggestion, thank you.
I took this shot in the late afternoon just before the storm hit our area, there were clouds all morning and afternoon, I took this when about a 30 minute break in the clouds occurred. This is around the corner from the house so I hope to get this shot again with a sunset and sunrise.
I thank you for your comments, I took none of them negatively, you pointed out the areas I need to improve and explain how to do it, in my book the perfect critique, thank you.
Question for you, I am also having a problem with crop and final size for posting, what is the best method for getting this large shot reduced in size. I had to drop the quality in conversion to High, 70%, in order to meet the 200k criteria. My original version looks a lot better than this one, but since I have a 12 megapixel shot, its not like my bird shots were I crop over 50%, I may be cropping only 10-15% on my landscapes and the size even when converting is still too high.
Greg
Yes it is crop, I had a lot of foreground water and I wanted the bridge to be the focal point and keep the sky. I understand your point, excellent point, next shot I will apply your suggestion, thank you.
I took this shot in the late afternoon just before the storm hit our area, there were clouds all morning and afternoon, I took this when about a 30 minute break in the clouds occurred. This is around the corner from the house so I hope to get this shot again with a sunset and sunrise.
I thank you for your comments, I took none of them negatively, you pointed out the areas I need to improve and explain how to do it, in my book the perfect critique, thank you.
Question for you, I am also having a problem with crop and final size for posting, what is the best method for getting this large shot reduced in size. I had to drop the quality in conversion to High, 70%, in order to meet the 200k criteria. My original version looks a lot better than this one, but since I have a 12 megapixel shot, its not like my bird shots were I crop over 50%, I may be cropping only 10-15% on my landscapes and the size even when converting is still too high.
Greg
(I had to wait a few minutes in order to stop laughing!) You even caught the same angle! I'll fix you up with some paint and a fog machine. That should add some drama to this 'wooden' shot! Oh, and a few 1000 ft. hills could help get a better view.
I'll offer a few observations, but remember that I am a novice too. After 6 months of effort, I know that I have a long way to go. First, I know you will get the ND grads, so that will help with the sky. But taking this shot with a softer light with a lower sun would help too.
I'm not exactly sure what Keith means by 'safe' and 'wooden', but at least on EPZ, people want to see drama in their landscapes, even if they are of a quiet and serene place. Here, I would like to see into the water and look at the rocks close up. And then also see the view of the bridge and sky, all in the same photo. Remember, you were standing on the water's edge, admiring this fine bridge. So you took a photo of it. You know what the rocks and water are like, but we don't. Are the rocks round or jagged? What colour are they? Is the water rushing by or just trickling along?
As far as processing goes, I take the full size shot and create a 1000 pixel version. then I sharpen it a little at the highest quality and save it. Then I 'save for web.' Doing a straight 'save for web' from the original doesn't work as well as they come out blurry for me.
LOL - Now I want you to go back there and do this place justice! (Mind you, you do not see a good river shot in my portfolio yet, so I'm being a backseat driver on this one!)
Patrick
I'll offer a few observations, but remember that I am a novice too. After 6 months of effort, I know that I have a long way to go. First, I know you will get the ND grads, so that will help with the sky. But taking this shot with a softer light with a lower sun would help too.
I'm not exactly sure what Keith means by 'safe' and 'wooden', but at least on EPZ, people want to see drama in their landscapes, even if they are of a quiet and serene place. Here, I would like to see into the water and look at the rocks close up. And then also see the view of the bridge and sky, all in the same photo. Remember, you were standing on the water's edge, admiring this fine bridge. So you took a photo of it. You know what the rocks and water are like, but we don't. Are the rocks round or jagged? What colour are they? Is the water rushing by or just trickling along?
As far as processing goes, I take the full size shot and create a 1000 pixel version. then I sharpen it a little at the highest quality and save it. Then I 'save for web.' Doing a straight 'save for web' from the original doesn't work as well as they come out blurry for me.
LOL - Now I want you to go back there and do this place justice! (Mind you, you do not see a good river shot in my portfolio yet, so I'm being a backseat driver on this one!)
Patrick
Patrick
Thank you, I will hit this shot again, actually since it is so close I will probably over shoot the scene!
I will be going out this weekend to get the filters, will take you suggestions on what to get. This weekend is suppose to be beautiful, the last of the after effects of the hurricane is leaving our area today.
After seeing your comments and Ian's, I think what Keith meant by safe is showing more of the action in the water. I am not a professional photographer and some of the terminology seems to elude me. But I will get back out there again, I also had a friend call me, said he had a good line on a cheap fog machine!
Oh, Jan offered to paint the bridge for me once he finishes his house, what is the exact color of the Bridge, what to make sure we get it right!
Greg
Thank you, I will hit this shot again, actually since it is so close I will probably over shoot the scene!
I will be going out this weekend to get the filters, will take you suggestions on what to get. This weekend is suppose to be beautiful, the last of the after effects of the hurricane is leaving our area today.After seeing your comments and Ian's, I think what Keith meant by safe is showing more of the action in the water. I am not a professional photographer and some of the terminology seems to elude me. But I will get back out there again, I also had a friend call me, said he had a good line on a cheap fog machine!
Oh, Jan offered to paint the bridge for me once he finishes his house, what is the exact color of the Bridge, what to make sure we get it right!
Greg
I'm glad you found a source for your fog machine, the shipping charges would be enormous! Just go to the local paint store and ask for 'Orange Vermilion.' Or you could use my Golden Gate Bridge PS plugin if you want!
I guess if I had to sum up landscape photography in one sentence, it would be: 'What was it *really* like to be there?' So you need to somehow include the sound, salt spray, wind, temperature, scale, and whatever else you can find. And including those elements in a photograph is what makes shooting landscapes so difficult.
Patrick
I guess if I had to sum up landscape photography in one sentence, it would be: 'What was it *really* like to be there?' So you need to somehow include the sound, salt spray, wind, temperature, scale, and whatever else you can find. And including those elements in a photograph is what makes shooting landscapes so difficult.
Patrick
By wooden and safe, Greg, I meant that if you took a dozen people, photographers or not, and asked them to take a shot of this bridge, most of them would stand where you stood. As it stands though you couldn't have a FG interest as the bridge is the FG.
It's not a question of drama; more one of dynamics.
It's not a question of drama; more one of dynamics.
Going thru the same process myself - thanks for mod on my scotney castle pic prefer your sky lol so - Nice sky ,nice composition and framing , would have benefitted / prefered more foreground interest ie water and a group of rocks
anyway great image greg regards frank
anyway great image greg regards frank
If you guys seriously want to avoid "Wooden" and "Safe" and "Flat" why do you keep dodging the option of going 3D?
I hope I can progress with my own efforts to Landscape 3D one day but as you can see I am tied to improving my Macro stuff just now.
I would be very happy if one of the master landscapers on ePz beat me to it but it would probably be difficult in our enforced presentation format. I would, for a start love to know what the recommended camera displacement between shots should be. I suspect it would be a darn sight more than the 3 cms I currently use on Macro.
Oh! By the way Greg, answering your question in your kind comment on one of my 3D pairs, Glasses should not affect your ability to view at all. I wear them constantly. When I get a moment I'll see if I can find some more ways of helping you master the technique.
Loved the way you copied Patrick's standard framing arrangement.....
Len
I hope I can progress with my own efforts to Landscape 3D one day but as you can see I am tied to improving my Macro stuff just now.
I would be very happy if one of the master landscapers on ePz beat me to it but it would probably be difficult in our enforced presentation format. I would, for a start love to know what the recommended camera displacement between shots should be. I suspect it would be a darn sight more than the 3 cms I currently use on Macro.
Oh! By the way Greg, answering your question in your kind comment on one of my 3D pairs, Glasses should not affect your ability to view at all. I wear them constantly. When I get a moment I'll see if I can find some more ways of helping you master the technique.
Loved the way you copied Patrick's standard framing arrangement.....
Len
Hi Greg,
You have got some great advice and to be completely honest I dont think ,most people realise this is what your second attempt at a lanscape, tranformation from the first is stunning, so you know what you're doing, you know what we expect so get out there and kick some @ss mate.
Lots of great suggestions been given.
remember the early morning or late evening light, get some foreground interest, you will have a first class shot
Mo
You have got some great advice and to be completely honest I dont think ,most people realise this is what your second attempt at a lanscape, tranformation from the first is stunning, so you know what you're doing, you know what we expect so get out there and kick some @ss mate.
Lots of great suggestions been given.
remember the early morning or late evening light, get some foreground interest, you will have a first class shot
Mo
I love seeing landscape shots just to get an idea of what your (meaning all the members on this site) neck of the woods is like. Too often there is no info as to location, and since there are members from all over the world, I like it when the description includes actual location.
I've enjoyed reading the above critiques, that's what this site is all about.
This photo is great in my eyes. I love the bright blue sky and white clouds as such a dramatic contrast to the cool greens in the rest of the photo. Of course the larger version shows so much more detail.
Kathy
I've enjoyed reading the above critiques, that's what this site is all about.
This photo is great in my eyes. I love the bright blue sky and white clouds as such a dramatic contrast to the cool greens in the rest of the photo. Of course the larger version shows so much more detail.
Kathy
Great composition and colours! Lovely sky!
well i think you,ve done a wonderful job with this shot, im absolutely useless at landscape shots and know nothing about filters etc
click clint
click clint
Indeed progress comes quick to those who persevere...well done Greg...good subject and interesting diagonal on it, the sky water balance is very good and your trees frame the scene well. Excellent my friend.
Doug.
PS I have no fixed f stop Greg that I prefer as I tend to take a few shots changing the settings I would not go as high as you did, probably f7 and 1/200 for this scene using Raw format.
Doug.
PS I have no fixed f stop Greg that I prefer as I tend to take a few shots changing the settings I would not go as high as you did, probably f7 and 1/200 for this scene using Raw format.
Hi Greg.
Sorry one more. Enjoying all the "read me's"
You sure made something lose with the Bridge. It will take you days to defend yourself .lol
So better change the Tittle in "Brigde over trouble water"?
Well, actually not much water left due to your CROP.!
Jan
Sorry one more. Enjoying all the "read me's"
You sure made something lose with the Bridge. It will take you days to defend yourself .lol
So better change the Tittle in "Brigde over trouble water"?
Well, actually not much water left due to your CROP.!
Jan
Well, perhaps 'drama' was not the right word, but yes, including something dynamic makes it come alive. The rushing water, a truck, whatever. Sometimes I forget that in my shots. My recent bridge shots are not dynamic in that way. Actually, a boat went right through one of them and I see no trace of it in the raw file!
Patrick
Patrick
Hi Greg, you know how to start a debate. I think all angles have been covered by some of the really good landscapers on this site, so i'll just say i enjoyed the thread! Take it easy, Cheers Chris
PS My opinion (for what its worth is) the light is a bit harsh and it looks a little noisy perhaps through colour saturation, nice scene and blue sky. Chris ;+)
PS My opinion (for what its worth is) the light is a bit harsh and it looks a little noisy perhaps through colour saturation, nice scene and blue sky. Chris ;+)
Great.
(Keeping it short. I have never seen such long comments. I am exhausted reading after through them!)
Simon
(Keeping it short. I have never seen such long comments. I am exhausted reading after through them!)
Simon
Thank you everyone for your wonderful comments and critiques. I appreciate everyones support. As always I love the great comments, thats my ego getting in the way, but the critiques were all good and valid points were made, that is exactly what I was looking for since this is a new endeavor for me. Again, thank you all!
Greg
Greg
Nice comp, Greg. Regarding the fog, have you thought about two guys with cigars (cheapskate option)! Click
Jules
Jules
Beautiful natural shot, so good to see Greg, so many on epz want to take landscape with so many fillters so the colours look so unnatural, this is super, well done.
Richard
Richard
Wheres the birdie Greg lol nice shot like the sky.Ho & to add im fine m8 will catch up with you later on msn
Steve
Steve
lovely shot greg of an ugly bridge
we have them in the uk and to be honest there design lets them down
as for the shot its a cracker
it the new lens and cil nagging you for landscape stuff lol
well done greg
we have them in the uk and to be honest there design lets them down
as for the shot its a cracker
it the new lens and cil nagging you for landscape stuff lol
well done greg
LOL - Just saw Jan's Mod......
Patrick
Patrick
Greg, sorry I'm late getting to this one. I like the response it recieved, very positive feedback, all helpful. I like the image, but I know you will do a lot better with practise, and heeding the advice givn above. here's one of my favourite articles on getting that 3D look that they've mentioned. Cheers.
Theres been alot of advice given to you in these comments Greg,some of which you will use,but at the end of the day it is still you that will compose the scene,and with a bit more practice at landscapes I've no doubt of your ability to produce some cracking scenes.
All the best....
Tony.
All the best....
Tony.
simpley outstanding and beautiful love the perspective of the bridge ..pure professional scape.. sublime
nikki
nikki
strong colours and contrast and nice composition
I think you should forget the fog machine...I like the beautiful sky much better than the fog!
