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janeez

Hello from luvverly somerset where the cider apples grow. Grin
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  • I used to use Blurb but found over the years the quality was not great. I moved over to Bobs Books but they are now part of Cewe as are many of them. There is another book producer called Saal Digital that have had some good reviews. Haven't used them myself and they are quite new to the market but they do look pretty good.


  • Quote:Utter madness, it does not need to be pro quality, just reliable, once you start turning profits you then update on the kit as when needed but it all needs costing in.

    I can't disagree with this at all. Reliability is essential, durability is for later. what should be essential is a back up camera because things can and do go wrong. I was chatting with a fellow wedding tog only today and he told me how he got the camera strap of his second body caught round his foot and he sent it flying through the air as he jumped off a table! I have lost a lens before now when I rather stupidly put it on the ground while I changed lenses and someone kicked it by accident and sent it bouncing along a very unforgiving patio!
    Pro equipment is built to last (maybe not a patio) and it is the way I work now and wouldn't do anything else.
    Rather surprisingly it is when you are an amateur in full time work with fewer commitments that pro equipment is actually more affordable. I would go as far to say that being semi pro gives you even more money to spend but maybe with less time to spend it!

  • Quote:Insurance, tax, national insurance, death in service plan, ten grand of back-up equipment and a drop of blood for signing the contract.

    Just another wedding thread.


    Insurance wise it is in the photographers best interest to be covered for the day. Some venues now insist on seeing the policy long before the wedding. Tax, depends how the tog is set up re income, National insurance is no doubt being paid anyway.

    Death in service, hmmmm, tricky one that! Do you do this quietly in the corner whilst handing over all your memory cards or be as flamboyant as possible in order to make it truly memorable for the couple.
    10k of back up equipment.....may need to rob a bank beforehand but then that should be in the forward planning of the big day.

    Blood for contract signing. At least half a pint is the least that should be given. A drop is never enough, they can easily spare that so leaving the contract wide open for cancelling at the last minute!
    Wink Grin Tongue
  • It is one darned slog sometimes being a professional. You have to be prepared to give up all the free time that you enjoy like weekends, bank holidays, Easter etc. Family time is grabbed when ever you can spare it and a regular income becomes a distant memory! Being passionate about photography is great but that is just the smallest part of the whole thing the rest is all about running a business. The other thing you will do far less of is the hobby photography but replace it with the photography that earns money and that sadly is a by product of the whole professional side of things.

    Working alongside a pro wedding photographer in order to learn is good if someone can take you on but be prepared for them saying no. It is immensely difficult to teach anyone how to be a wedding photographer while shooting a wedding. The pace is so fast and all time has to be devoted to the task in hand. At best you will, as someone has suggested, be an assistant to carry bags etc but even then you can still learn quite a lot just from watching.
    Invest in some good training and again, as has been said, business management, marketing and using social media for business.

    Finally, I would not use anything that wasn't up to the performance standard of pro equipment. Durability and reliability is the key to whether your day is successful or reducing you to a nervous wreck!

    Don't let anything put you off though if this is your dream. I love my work and am very proud of my business. Would I do anything else? Not a chance! Grin Wink
  • Loved the reaction of the motorcyclist. He was a hero in my eyes! Those men were vile and I really don't believe it was staged.
  • One thing I would really, really advise is that you finish at 9pm after the first dance. Weddings can go a bit silly after that and the subject quality goes downhill rapidly. You will have ample images of the day before the night crowd get started! I used to stay late but absolutely won't anymore. There are so many reasons why and one of those is the risk to your equipment. I've had drunk guests try to take my camera from me so they can take my photo (????!) and someone once tried to use my camera after I put it on a table while sorting out a new CF card. They didn't know how to turn it on but it was a good lesson for me that alcohol and expensive equipment doesn't mix well!
  • That is one heck of a long day and is going to require a large number of hours editing afterwards. Look at the equipment you will be using and if you will require additional batteries, cards etc then load this into the cost. Add in the insurance you will need for the day and the fuel you will be using to get there and back and it soon starts to mount up. 550.00 is more than reasonable to charge them. Working like a slave for no money even if it is for friends can be very hard. Just ensure you have the insurance to cover you, your equipment and the public including the wedding establishment, that ming vase won't pay for itself!!!! Wink Tongue
  • Many thanks Emma. It used to be so easy to find but there have been a lot of changes over the years.
  • Are the Christmas draw winners listed somewhere? Just wondered if I have been looking in the wrong place! Tongue

  • Quote:There is a technique in Neuro Linguistic Programming whereby you can be helped to modify your memories of the events that bother you. I would suggest you find help from a suitable practitioner.

    NLP is excellent and can be immensely helpful for many things. I went on a three day course with my hubby which incredibly they didn't even charge for. We both found it to be really useful for different reasons. It certainly helped me move toward a far better goal in life and away from an absolute nightmare of a situation within my workplace.
    They may be able to help you understand your feelings, how to learn to accept what has happened whilst taking control of how you move forward in the future.
  • I work to the customers brief and that's it. If they want it done a certain way then that's what they get. If the brief is "you're on you own, do your thing" then that's what I'll do. I really don't let it bother me it's all about paying my mortgage in the end! It is quite refreshing to be given direction and can sometimes get the job done a lot quicker. If they are not happy with the result then they have to get you back for a second shot at it and pay double.
  • Before the freezer thing it was highly likely your images could have been recovered but might still be. Not quite sure what effect freezing will have on it. You could try PC World if they have a technical department or an online recovery company but be prepared it is very, very costly. Just let them know it has been in the freezer. I back up to three devices and cloud storage but as this is slow any customer files that I know will take time are put onto USBs and come with me if I am going away for a length of time. Then again I am a wedding and commercial photographer so would be somewhat over the top for most people Wink What I am driving at is back up to the hilt if you don't want to risk losing anything and try Solid State Drives as they are the safest option now.
  • Just checked and it looks like you could get this Zoostorm for just under 220 and a monitor from 62 which would give you a better spec and save you a few quid as well. (I love a bargain!) Smile
  • Sounds like a pretty good deal to me especially with a Samsung monitor. If you don't require any more than 8gb RAM then it should be good for you. I would imaging it will still be a higher spec than your old machine. May be worth taking a look at Ebuyer website as well as they have some pretty good deals on there.
  • Hi Stuart. It's great to be back. Grin

  • Quote:..but you know with EPZ you can never leave...


    Check out any time you like but you can never leave sort of thing then? Wink
  • I sneaked back in quietly under the radar after a few months absence after my lovely mum died. Sadly in that time the MNC closed down which I loved to take part in Sad

  • Quote:Oh and when editing I'll be running it through the TV....well, that's my plan anyway!


    Get a good monitor as TV screens cannot be calibrated for true colour rendering unless things have really moved on in the last few years.
  • I have a Zoostorm which I used to use for PS and LR and it is very good (moved over to Mac for work editing) and still use it for all other work and still run CS6 on it. Never had a problem but I did go for the highest spec I could get for my money and the best Graphics card to run the programmes. Check Ebuyer for the best spec and prices and look for a decent monitor rather than a fully packaged variety which may not be the best for your requirements.
  • Merry Christmas to all the EPZ community. Have a good one and a very happy new year. xx Grin
  • Hate to say it but the second shot which looks like the cropped portrait has the Queen out of focus. This is on the website of the Guardian here

  • Quote: read in the paper that apparently he only had 3 minutes to take the shot, and his lights blew at the first attempt. In the circumstances I think we can give him a bit of slack. Smile After all, his body of work is pretty impressive.


    Just caught your post after I had written mine. That would explain a lot. 3 minutes is pretty tough going even without a light blowing!
  • It all looks rather odd to me unless it is my screen!!! Tongue There is a bright halo around the Queens head and her forehead looks over exposed and the rest of her slightly under. Charles suit is very black and showing only a little detail. This looks like a heavy handed photo shopped edit. Can someone put me right on what I am looking at as I am no expert on portraiture. Smile

  • Quote: My original plan was to be a physical therapist, which is now sounding much simpler. I will keep everything in mind that you've all said moving forward from here. I'd really hate to lose my passion for photography, it's something that has kept me sane while traveling alone. Again, thanks for all the advice and help out of your busy lives, I really appreciate it.


    Don't give up on your dream, maybe just put it to one side for a while as you develop your skills. It's a sad thing to have your dream crushed before you even start and I do find a couple of things that have been said are quite harsh. Quite a lot to bear in mind though and now you are on this fabulous journey I don't see you losing any of that passion. Your original career path looks like it would certainly be beneficial financially for you which will help with funding your photography.
  • Hi YangYu. I am a professional photographer. It is my main and pretty much only income. I occasionally, when times are lean, help my brother with his business to keep a few pennies rolling in and that is the most important thing I can tell you. Photography now is littered with part timers and it has made my job more difficult as they can afford to charge very low prices which I cannot do as the running costs for me are very high and I never cut corners.

    Quote:he struggled for the first few years because he was concerned about photography. He eventually realised that he needed to run a business (which happened to be about photography). He concentrated on the business side and became successful.

    This is spot on advice. I spend an enormous amount of time doing lots of very boring things to make my business run successfully and all of it costs money from my website to my accountant!
    Ok, so having said that I wouldn't want to do anything else and yes photography does get under your skin. It has been for me for over 40 years. But be prepared to end up only having photography as your work and forgetting to take pictures of family and all things the things you enjoy photographing for pleasure! This is an absolute reality.
    I have looked through your portfolio and you do have some very nice images there. I do think you need to develop more skills with your editing and some first class training to really nail those landscape shots. Everyone starts somewhere and to have an absolute passion can only be a good thing as I am sure you will learn huge amounts in probably a very short time with all the right help. You do have some way to go but every journey starts with the first steps. Take a look through the portfolios of all the best photographers, decide which area you fit into and study what they do and how they achieve it then who knows where it could eventually lead you.

  • Quote:Surely most professionals have back-up cameras! In general I would say that an amateur is more likely to look after their kit


    What an odd thing to say. I have back up cameras and always use two cameras for weddings but would never, ever treat them poorly. I do not know of any full time professional photographer who would and I know a great many! I rely on all my equipment to work at all times. That means having them serviced regularly and always kept clean. In my line of work I know instantly who the weekend warriors are as they are the ones who can afford to indulge in all the expensive stuff unlike us humble ones who scrape a full time living with photography. We could not afford to damage our equipment through neglect as it would mean no money and no mortgage payments!

  • Quote:The D810 came out in June 2014 and has been used professionally. I would aim for something similar (D750?) from a reputable dealer, either new or lightly used for the same sort of price with a warranty.
    With a camera with that amount of use, you have to ask yourself. Has it been dropped, has it been thrown about in the boot of a car? How often has the sensor been cleaned and with how much care? How much wear in the lens mount.



    If it has been used professionally then it is far more likely to have been looked after very well. I cannot afford to chuck around my equipment because if it does get damaged then I can't do my work.

    However I would ask why it was being sold.
  • The D810 is an amazing camera and an excellent choice. That is a relatively low shutter count with plenty of life left in it but look around to see if it is the best price. I use mine primarily for weddings and actually use a D4 as my second. Everything about is is fabulous and being able to pull out details in low light conditions is quite simply second to none. If this has been used professionally I would suggest it should have been well looked after.

    It's worth noting that you can now buy a brand shiny new one from Panamoz for just over 1700!
  • My absolute favourite. Not heard so much anymore but love Maddie Priors voice.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDc2FD-vy8M