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Exploring Talisker Bay

By KatyJ
The amazing patterns on Talisker Bay on the Isle of Skye. They change twice a day as the tide goes in and out moving the black and white sand.

I would like critiques on the composition and anything else really!

Settings were f20 at 200th sec

I have put it through a Nik filter to grit it up somewhat to emphasize the patterns. Hopefully not too much. It has already been considerably cropped, mainly the sky.

Tags: Black and white Landscape and travel


Niknut Plus
9 2.4k 80 United Kingdom
2 Apr 2014 4:46PM
Cracking shot !!....nice strong composition & 'gritty' treatment, & the figure emphasises the scale....great stuff !!Smile

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senn 8 5 1 Belgium
2 Apr 2014 6:43PM
well captured, effectively worked
KatyJ 10 England
2 Apr 2014 7:01PM
Thanks for your comments Niknut and Senn. I added an alternative but thought it hadn't gone through so did it again and now I don't know how to delete one of them. It occurred to me that maybe it might look better with the sky chopped off. I added a wee bit of extra sea to compensate. Would be interested to know which you guys prefer.
Niknut Plus
9 2.4k 80 United Kingdom
2 Apr 2014 7:33PM
The original !!!!!!!!!!!!! needs that horizon line & distant mountains !!Smile
pamelajean Plus
13 1.2k 2096 United Kingdom
2 Apr 2014 11:06PM
Hello Kate, it's good to see you back in the Critique Gallery.

You managed to put your cropped image into the Modifications section. Don't worry about not deleting the other one.

I don't like the idea of cropping off the sky because it brings your lone walker a bit too close to the top of the frame.
Also, adding more sea at the top doesn't work for me because it adds more darkness to the top and tends to draw the eye upwards, whereas the lightness of the sky blends in with the overall tones much better. I would leave it as it is.
You say that you have cropped the sky already, and it's just enough. Your subject is the sand patterns, which you have featured beautifully.

Your walker is nicely placed one third across the frame, perfect positioning. He also has a very nice reflection in the wet sand.
The sand patterns are wonderful, and would make a fine abstract all on their own. I like the way they lead the eye to your walker.

I feel that you have achieved the effect you were after, and it's looking good.

paulbroad Plus
12 131 1285 United Kingdom
3 Apr 2014 9:11AM
Very well done indeed. Post processing filters actually used well and to great advantage. My only negative, and it is a strange one as your horizon is dead level, is that the figure appears to lean slightly to the left? Could be my old eyes.

KatyJ 10 England
3 Apr 2014 11:11AM
Much appreciate all the comments. Thanks a million. Paul I guess he is leaning slightly. Probably just because he is walking and he has a tripod over his right shoulder weighing him down!! But I will straighten it up to avoid any judge bait for my club's next digi comp!! Thanks for spotting with your eagle eye (old eyes are good sometimes!) xxx
NEWMANP 11 1.6k 574 United Kingdom
3 Apr 2014 12:57PM
excellent location, beautiful sand pattern framed well and i like the square format.

the image looks exciting in the thumb but the overpowing gritty conversion takes away some of the impact when its full size.

the figure im not so sure, i think i prefer the scene without but if i were to include, id try and get low enough and him far enough back to try and split the horizon with him, hes kind of in the right place but lost aginst the dark sea and has a load of water above his head,

if i couldnt break the horizon maybe a step or two forwards onto the sand as a backdrop could work better, either way i do like the reflection of him.

its hard to establish the conditions of the day due to the conversion and treatment but im guessing it was pretty flat light and so the temptation to grunge up a mono conversion,

its subjective and you probably love the result but i feel that its too gritty and to abrubt a tonal range for the lovely location i know this is. a look through the various presets in nik efex may have suggested alternatives, possibly even infra red may have worked well. it would be nice to have the original to experiment with.

one of my favourite photographers, permajet sponsered Hugh Milsom works this location quite a lot and he gos more for subdued tones but makes wonderful studies of this beach and islands behind. look him up , he is worth seeing and especially his prints in life are spectacular.

i wish i was there at the time,
KatyJ 10 England
4 Apr 2014 11:01AM
Thanks Phil for your suggestions. I have looked at Hugh Milsom's work and love the pastel beach studies you mention. In fact I am already a great fan of this gentle pastelly feel. You may also be familiar with Irene Froy who I have admired for some time and have been to some of her lectures and actually have produced many prints trying to emulate her style. I did go back to the original image. I tried infrared which actually didn't work too well. I wanted to go back to the original image to try out your suggestion but I had a problem in that I am afraid I cheated a bit with the composition. I wasn't quite happy with the way the sand patterns worked in the composition and had used the warp tool to try to make it more satisfying. I know I should have done this in the original. So when I went back to try and get it the same I couldn't get it how I liked it. Like you say the light was not at its best. We were actually there in the middle of the day and the colours were not great. We chose this time because it was when the tide had just gone out so there were not many footprints in the sand. Will definitely be returning to Skye and for sure will try and get to Talisker at a better time of day. It was actually a grab shot in getting the fellow photographer in the picture. I guess I should have asked him to go back and do it again. Will remember that next time. That is certainly one of my faults when getting people in the shot. I am far too shy to ask them to stay a bit and do it again.

Well, I had a deadline for my digital comp entry which had to be in last night. So I have gone with the gritty version and will just be hoping that the judge likes it. But won't be at all surprised if he doesn't. Thanks for your input.


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