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A Mud Lark..

By Jasper87  
A mudlark is someone who scavenges in river mud for items of value, a term used especially to describe those who scavenged this way in London during the late 18th and 19th centuries.

Back to Deptford Creek again.

v1 is looking up the creek under the bridge of the Docklands Light Railway
v2 - part of the creek wall
v3 - all the detritus that remains in the creek. They tried to clean up a stretch of the creek and removed hundreds of
shopping trolleys amongst all the other junk but found that the actually wildlife decreased. The little critters at
the bottom of the food chain were able to hide from their predators in all this rubbish. Hence they left all the
rest of the rubbish alone.


Tags: Rubbish Photo journalism London Thames Ravensbourne Mud walk

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Hermanus 5 4 South Africa
30 Jul 2013 7:04AM
Excellent photos Dave - although v3 is not a pretty sight ! Smile

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ColleenA Plus
5 362 6 Australia
30 Jul 2013 7:05AM
Morning Dave...just love V1....superb composition and such an unusual pov, did you have to throw your shoes away afterwards...V2 has amazing textures and V3 sums up the decay...excellent photography
nonur Plus
9 17 13 Turkey
30 Jul 2013 7:07AM
Interesting info, suggestive title, quality works, Dave. V1 and V2 understandably are my favourites. I like the POV and compo of the first, the compo, colours and textures of the second is excellent.
30 Jul 2013 7:12AM
Really like V2, Dave.
V1 looks very dull on my screen....?
30 Jul 2013 7:22AM
it looks a tad dull on my screen as well Dave but I think it suits the capture and still like it so its V1 for me I tone mapped it its come out well liked the composition a lot

have a good day

Jasper87 Plus
8 2.0k 150 England
30 Jul 2013 7:50AM

Quote:Really like V2, Dave.
V1 looks very dull on my screen....?

Quote:It looks a tad dull on my screen as well Dave but I think it suits the capture and still like it so its V1 for me I tone mapped it its come out well liked the composition a lot

have a good day

Cheers guys, I was worried it looked a little 'HDR' on my monitor. I had to push quite a bit of light back into the shadow areas. I shall have a play and put up another version maybe.
andylea 9 37 1 United Kingdom
30 Jul 2013 7:51AM
woolybill1 Plus
11 23 72 United Kingdom
30 Jul 2013 8:01AM
Smashing composition in V1, the overall appearance dramatically improved by the fiddling in V4.
Must admit that I rather like the strict order of V2!
Another good reportage set.
RonnieAG Plus
8 154 118 Scotland
30 Jul 2013 8:31AM
A fascinating set in every way: I love the composition of V 1 with the view along the creek under the Light Railway line.
The wall of the creek alone makes for a great subject in content, tones, and textures, and the accumulated detritus in V 3 is something else. Imagine making your hone amongst that lot!
Interesting too to read the comments of others, Dave.
I too noticed that V 1 was rather dull on my screen and I see you have posted V 4 in response, although on my Mac it has gone in the other direction and appears slightly over-exposed.........just one of the problems of different monitors and how they are set up for the individual.
mrswoolybill Plus
11 1.2k 1929 United Kingdom
30 Jul 2013 8:32AM
V4 covers precisely what I was going to suggest, so that saves me the time... Smile
Good set, building a picture. There's someone's Brave New World passing over a Grotty Old World.
I like the thought that shopping trolleys might serve some environmental purpose, but don't spread the word around too far...
barbarahirst 9 27 12 United Kingdom
30 Jul 2013 8:34AM
great photo journalism....
30 Jul 2013 8:37AM
A fine combination of beauty and ugly. --- And you have that"something" with the bridges, Dave. Smile ---- Jukka.
Caziwinkles 5 3 1 United Kingdom
30 Jul 2013 8:42AM
Fascinating write up with superb images Dave.
V1 now as V4 looks fab on my screen now - well worth the extra mod. Smile

Nigeve1 Plus
5 1.4k 101 United Kingdom
30 Jul 2013 9:04AM
Excellent set, great composition on 1 and 4, I prefer the processing on 4. V2 is also an excellent image.
rontear Plus
15 8 8 England
30 Jul 2013 9:35AM
Like the POV Dave, needs a little more contrast for me. V4 does just that!! V2 very individual.
franken Plus
15 4.6k 4 United Kingdom
30 Jul 2013 9:36AM
Another interesting set Dave.

AnnChown Plus
8 207 1 United Kingdom
30 Jul 2013 9:41AM
It must have been fascinating dredging around in all that Thames mud! I love the HDR effect and, like Ronnie, I'd like something between v1 and v4! There's no pleasing some people. And, like Bill, I really like the orderliness of v2! Can't comment on v3 - what a scruffy lot those Londoners are! WinkSmile Super images Dave and probably unique on ePZ!
DixClix 9 2 United Kingdom
30 Jul 2013 9:47AM
An excellent set of images of a rather depressing looks rather like something out of H. G. Wells! Very interesting both in content and description, thank you.
9 10 10 England
30 Jul 2013 9:52AM
A "gritty set" - interesting to know the rubbish appears to be appreciated by the local wild life - I think rats and have a shudder.
Nikonuser1 Plus
5 152 16 United Kingdom
30 Jul 2013 10:39AM
A great set of images Dave, V2 is my favorite.Smile NB I used to work for Agent Plant, Creekside, the yard used to back onto the creek.

NDODS 7 5.1k 125 United Kingdom
30 Jul 2013 10:52AM
The Mudlarks by David Lewis Paget

He crept on out of the ginnel, and
He whispered: ‘Follow me,
The tide is down in the river, so
We’ll see what we can see.
We might pick up a penny or two,
A bundle of fishing twine,
Or maybe even a sovereign, Nat,
But if we do, it’s mine!’

Young Godby, he was a Mudlark,
He was only eight or nine,
But he’d been foraging through the mud
Since 1869,
His Dad had gone with a steamer
All the way down to the Cape,
But if you looked at his mother,
You could see, he’d just escaped.

So Godby went on a daily sludge
Each time that the tide was out,
Out where the Thames receded when
His Mother began to shout,
He told me that he would show me
All the tricks to find the gilt,
Buried beneath the slimy mud
And deep down in the silt.

He wasn’t the only Mudlark there
We passed by Mary Ann,
She was covered in mud, but grinned,
She’d found a frying pan,
We traipsed out further toward the stream
That lapped beside the mud,
‘This is the place you find the stuff,
It’s mucky, but it’s good!’

I picked up a box and wiped it off,
He said, ‘Hey, that’s Japanned,
You’ll probably get a bob for that
If you take it to Wheezy Dan.’
He dug around and he found some brass
And some copper fender ware,
He said, ‘You ‘elp me carry it back,
And whatever I get, I’ll share!’

The sun was down, it was almost dusk
And the cold, so cold it hurt,
Suddenly Godby tripped and fell
His foot caught up in a skirt,
The woman lay buried in slimy mud
Her face as black as pitch,
‘Here’s one,’ he said, ‘has slung her ‘ook,
Has jumped off London Bridge!’

He said he’d seen them a lot before
So he didn’t appear upset,
‘You get what yer can,’ he said to me
As he fumbled around her neck,
He pulled off a tiny golden chain
With a locket, covered in mud,
Then fumbled around for her hands, I said,
‘I don’t really think you should!’

He took two rings from her fingers, but
The third it was on too tight,
He strained, and snapped off the finger,
Took the ring on that dreadful night,
I never went back to the river bank,
To me, the place was cursed,
For there in the locket, a tiny snap
Of her, and my Uncle Perce
morpheus1955 11 3 2 United Kingdom
30 Jul 2013 10:57AM
Brilliant set of images Dave, love them all Smile

Herge88 11 40 4 England
30 Jul 2013 11:07AM
Version one for me Dave, almost an HDR feel to it.

Best Matt
Irishkate Plus
7 41 114 United Kingdom
30 Jul 2013 11:44AM
Interesting photo journalism an dI never knew what a mudlark was!
My pick of the set has got to be V2 - beauty amongst the chaos.
The three uprights and the grey /green palette make an excellent image.
lonely_oryx 10 61 55 England
30 Jul 2013 11:48AM
I guessed it was yours purely by the composition in v1. V4 for me
30 Jul 2013 11:50AM
I see what you mean about the HDR thing. ( Yuuchh! ) V4 is better, but I also use a Mac, and I agree with Ronnie. On the understanding that, as we all know very well, Macs are always right, I'm uploading a tiny tweak, mostly just darkening the shadows a little to get away from the "HDR" and hopefully make it slightly more "Photographic."

netta1234 6 382 2 Wales
30 Jul 2013 12:52PM
Interesting set of imagesSmile
richmowil Plus
9 352 2 England
30 Jul 2013 1:55PM
Interesting findings regarding the removal of the rubbish and the effect this had on the wildlife!! Interesting set of images. V2 is my favorite, its the comp, textures and colour that win me over!!!!
taggart Plus
13 47 13 United States
30 Jul 2013 1:56PM
My first thought--- what fantastic framing in v1, Your text is most interesting, as are the images that follow--- V2 --great composition and color , v3 tells the whole story--- I like this sort of Photo Journalisy!
widtink 5 406 2 Scotland
30 Jul 2013 2:44PM
V2 is great , v4 better than the original SmileSmile

widtink 5 406 2 Scotland
30 Jul 2013 2:56PM
Mudlark is a bit like a widtink lol SmileSmileSmile
rayme330 6 17 1 United Kingdom
30 Jul 2013 3:02PM
There is nothing wrong with HDR when used judiciously and I have to agree with the consensus that the revised V4 is excellent, well processed Dave. Grin

ChiliMan 11 135 17 Singapore
30 Jul 2013 3:06PM
Ooh...yes yes...V4 looks much better, Dave.

Now that was some really enlightened thinking to leave all that behind for the critters. Well done on them.

Three wonderfully crystal clear shots you've got here...with V2 being my all-time favourite hands down SmileSmile

saltireblue Plus
8 8.0k 33 Norway
30 Jul 2013 3:41PM
Good call with v4, Dave. It did look like hdr in v1.
V2 appeals most for the rigid, fixed feel to the ingredient parts.
V3...everything bar the kitchen sink..or have you cloned it out?Grin

moiral 8 12 Scotland
30 Jul 2013 4:01PM
I love this set of shots Dave, not only because they are technically good, but also because this a photoshoot that would very much appeal to me. You have some lovely reflections in V3. Moira
30 Jul 2013 4:17PM
All captures are great, Dave, especially V4!
30 Jul 2013 4:33PM

Quote:There is nothing wrong with HDR when used judiciously

Absolutely. Nothing wrong with it.
pluckyfilly 11 351 33 United Kingdom
30 Jul 2013 4:46PM
V4 is how I would have presented this picture but V1 has a certain fitting charm - you always provide us with pictures of great interest and your highly commended for that, my choice today V1
carper123 Plus
6 1.1k 8 United Kingdom
30 Jul 2013 4:54PM
A super set of images, Dave, v4 better than v1, v2 a wonderful composition, v3 image of urban filth and dereliction, the opposite in v1 and v4. Well thought out and put together.
Well done my friend.
Darryl. SmileSmileSmile
Thank you so much for your concerns, much appreciated. SmileSmileSmile
30 Jul 2013 5:37PM
Great pov on V1 Dave, but V2 really hits the mark for me.

John Smile
TrevBatWCC Plus
9 12 12 England
30 Jul 2013 5:44PM
When I were a lad, a Mudlark was one of the three vocalists of the name back in the 1950s!! Wink Great set, Dave, with V4 being my fave...
Trev Smile
V4 comes to light now.. Great composition & the hint of processing..V2 is my favourite today with all the different textures & I like the presentation.
30 Jul 2013 6:22PM
Great pov in V1 - which comes alive in V4 Grin

AnneWorner 10 620 43 United States
30 Jul 2013 6:32PM
V4 saves me time too Smile It did need to be brightened up.
It seems the same everywhere: debris thrown into streams - bikes, shopping carts, and other things that shall remain unnamed!

mikbee 11 3 8 Scotland
30 Jul 2013 7:10PM
Love the grot in V2 Dave.
Deserves a solo spot alone !!
Excellent shot.
Potra 5 Venezuela
30 Jul 2013 7:12PM
V2 is superb, Dave.
Lillian Plus
8 22 17 United Kingdom
30 Jul 2013 7:17PM
Has to be the revisited one V4 Dave..says a lot more
but V2 looking like a wee pee against that wall of dry...caught short huh?Blush
but that is my choice of image as loads there to keep seeing
myrab 11 United Kingdom
30 Jul 2013 7:44PM
Love the images Dave plus all the information.

6 3 8 United Kingdom
30 Jul 2013 9:00PM
Great images that looks like a dirty location. V4 is my fav as it gives the area a well needed touch of colour!WinkGrinGrinGrinGrin
pamelajean Plus
12 1.1k 2016 United Kingdom
30 Jul 2013 9:10PM
V4 for me, SO much better. I'm so glad I read all of Nathan's poem, the end is so good.
marktc Plus
7 101 15 United Kingdom
30 Jul 2013 9:29PM
4 great shots Dave, I think v4 is my favourite, some fantastic lines here. Nicely done matey
HELANA 8 United Kingdom
30 Jul 2013 9:35PM
Beautifully capture Dave, V1 is my favourit. It is really horrible to see that we used the rivers as rubbish dump.very good images.SmileSmile
xwang 9 56 8
30 Jul 2013 11:52PM
I like the composition of V1. Very powerful... great work!
30 Jul 2013 11:58PM
Excellent set of images Dave detail amazing
LynneJoyce Plus
9 20 99 United Kingdom
31 Jul 2013 1:03AM
Fascinating set, V4 is a great improvement on V1. My favourite by a long way is V2.
Richsr 11 91 223 England
31 Jul 2013 11:00AM
Good reportage here Dave.
The tonal range is certainly seen better in V4. With good texture and light in V2. Well done Dave.
V4 is my fav Dave all well captured but 4 does it for me
capto Plus
6 5.2k 8 United Kingdom
31 Jul 2013 2:42PM
Great set, I do like a bit of grot, v2 is my favourite.Smile

v4 looks spot on for colour and brightness here.

31 Jul 2013 5:36PM
An excellent set . v2 and v3 are my favourites because I like the realistic view.
Regards Ely
almiles 8 38 102 United Kingdom
31 Jul 2013 6:41PM
Great exploratory and observational set. V1 has the interesting PoV and I agree that V4 has improved on it a lot by livening it up. Too muddy in V1 Wink
However V2 is the best comp IMHO, a beautifully observed abstract with a lovely arrangement of strong vertical and horizontal lines contrasting the decay while the colours are brilliant. I've been doing more abstracts away on my holiday and V2 really hits a high note for me being so superb. Smile
dmhuynh72 10 44 3 United Kingdom
31 Jul 2013 6:44PM
nicely composed images
31 Jul 2013 8:12PM
Fantastic set of images Dave, V4 for me! Smile
jasonrwl Plus
8 1.1k 10 United Kingdom
31 Jul 2013 8:45PM
Fascinating Dave - you were certainly brave going in there
31 Jul 2013 10:18PM
I was just wondering what might be found in all that mud and NDOS'S poem was what I was thinking .You are brave ! Interesting images all the same and so is your write up .
31 Jul 2013 11:06PM
Where were you standing Dave?!! A great viewpoint, everything looking quite dynamic from your low position.
Rende 11 38 4 Netherlands
1 Aug 2013 1:19PM
Excellent and interesting series Dave; I particularly like the composition, shapes and textures in V2.
I also prefer V4 over V1; lovely composition!
1 Aug 2013 4:09PM
A fascinating set, v4 for me
Excellent set.SmileSmile
Warm regards,
2 Aug 2013 1:19AM
Dave, great set mate. Like the way you have caught the curve of the bridge in v1 but think the lines in v2 are super........did you get muddy feet.

CaroleS Plus
8 433 3 United Kingdom
2 Aug 2013 12:59PM
Excellent photo journalism - I really like the detail in V2.
sable 10 9 7 United Kingdom
2 Aug 2013 8:38PM
Excellent images with a very interesting narrative - Elizabeth xx
2 Aug 2013 8:56PM
At my opinion, the winner here is the first photo, Dave. It looks like two different times, crossed at this point ... Very interesting work, indeed Smile
Regards Valery
Glostopcat 12 255 2 England
7 Aug 2013 11:26PM
When I saw your title I thought you'd spotted a rare bird in London!Blush I was sure you'd have got the twitchers excited and they'd have descended en masse to catch a glimpse of this rare visitor!Grin An excellent composition in v1 and I also like all that grime, grot and debris in the latter two

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