Rust never sleeps 2

By mrswoolybill
More from Brenzett Aeronautical Museum.
Thanks for looking,
Edit: I have added a flipped version for comparison, following Helen's comment. It entirely changes the mood to something much more positive, forward-looking - whereas for me V1 is about sadness and looking towards the past.
Edit Edit: V3 is for Albert and Danny, V4 for Barry. Any more requests??

Tags: Photo journalism Specialist and abstract

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fentiger 19 920 24 England
27 Aug 2012 8:21AM
Thought this was Bill's when I first saw the thumb!
Good use of DOF to give emphasis to the rusty cog with the spidery web.


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NDODS 9 5.2k 127 United Kingdom
27 Aug 2012 8:23AM
A cracking lump Moira, which certainly has seen its better days. As Albert so kindly pointed out, the good use of DoF certainly emphasises the detail in the webbed cog.

Regards Nathan
RobinF 13 83 1 England
27 Aug 2012 8:24AM
Great viewed large, love the detail of the web on the cog Moira.
franken Plus
17 5.1k 4 United Kingdom
27 Aug 2012 8:26AM
Excellent use of DOF and lovely rust Moira!

jonwebber 12 4 1 United Kingdom
27 Aug 2012 8:31AM
Just enough detail to speculate upon . . .
27 Aug 2012 8:32AM
I reCOGnised this straight away Moira, very nice dof and detail.
And that reminds me, I really must upload some of mine for the Musuem soon Smile

John Smile
morpheus1955 13 3 2 United Kingdom
27 Aug 2012 8:34AM
Brilliant shot Moira, great textures and tones,good dof too Smile

helenlinda Plus
13 366 22 United Kingdom
27 Aug 2012 8:34AM
Great dof Moira and a web which links well with your title - the cogs may well sleep, but the rust is awake 24/7 SmileSmile
[I'm reading it right to left - have you tried flipping it?]
27 Aug 2012 8:58AM
Ooooooh do like a rusty cog!

Marvelous pic.

(But could someone explain DOF please...I am guessing the F is focus?)

mrswoolybill Plus
13 2.1k 2238 United Kingdom
27 Aug 2012 9:01AM
Thanks everyone, I'm delighted with the reception this has received. It was taken during a visit with Dave87, the Mr & Mrs lifesnapper, Ann Chown and Sarah Sezz.
Quote:I'm reading it right to left - have you tried flipping it?
I see eyes, looking leftwards so towards the past. I had thought of flipping, to show how it can change the mood of an image. Will add it as V2.
While I'm doing that Bill will explain DOF for Julie.
fentiger 19 920 24 England
27 Aug 2012 9:09AM
I think I might prefer No. 2 but personally would crop away some of the RH side.

woolybill1 Plus
13 34 76 United Kingdom
27 Aug 2012 9:17AM
My p.m. to Julie:

'dof' stands for Depth of Field; explained simply, that's the amount that's in focus from front to back of the picture.
Mostly landscape photographs will have complete or extreme depth of field, in other words everything will be in focus; many macro pictures will have shallow depth of field simply because the focus is so close that the system won't record detail much further away so the background becomes reduced to a blur. And of course there are all shades in between. It depends on how close you are to the subject and how wide the aperture is in the lens.

Some photographers (such as me and Moira ) use shallow dof deliberately just because they like the effect. Here is a recent example.

But beware - many commentators on epz use the abbreviation to refer to shallow dof only!

Hope this is at least a little bit clearer.
27 Aug 2012 9:28AM
Eloquently put Mr W.
Good shot, I like v2, for me it has more impact and just looks better, good colours and the web is a nice touch.

rontear Plus
17 23 8 England
27 Aug 2012 9:34AM
Competant historical images Moira, always seeing what most would miss or certainly not engage with. A credit to your style and reason for photography.
twelvemegs 10 6 United Kingdom
27 Aug 2012 9:35AM
Excellent detail and colour Moira, really like the shallow dof.
V2 works best for me. I wonder if that means something.

27 Aug 2012 9:46AM
The shallow focus gives a better view here in my opinion of the cogs and rusty bits, than might be found if the lens was stopped down further. You could argue all day about which is right and which is wrong, we read in this country from left to right so it's more natural to our eyes.

nonur 11 18 13 Turkey
27 Aug 2012 9:48AM
I agree with David, Moira, and V2 works better for me too only because of the working of my brain.
RobboB Plus
13 133 United Kingdom
27 Aug 2012 9:48AM
I do like some rust and interesting to see how the flipping creates a different impression.
Fefe Plus
8 50 32 United Kingdom
27 Aug 2012 10:30AM
Nice rusty cogs.................. either way for meGrin
nice mix of dof and colour
gary_d 12 576 13 Wales
27 Aug 2012 11:01AM
Its amazing how flipping an image can change the mood and meaning, as for the image I like the selective focus and out of focus areas, could easily be one of Bills. - gary
27 Aug 2012 11:37AM
Excellent combination of colours, textures, shapes and selective focussing. Like it.

mikbee 13 3 8 Scotland
27 Aug 2012 12:01PM
I hope this does not start a trend Moira,
where RAS members will be called ''sad''
with the rust they upload !!
Looks all perfectly cheerful to me.
Good shots.
Up,down,left,right,or any such way whatsoever !!
Joline Plus
14 30 56 United States
27 Aug 2012 12:13PM
What a difference it makes how one looks at the world....dextra or sinestra that is the question!
mrswoolybill Plus
13 2.1k 2238 United Kingdom
27 Aug 2012 12:17PM
Interesting comments above...
Quote:What a difference it makes how one looks at the world....dextra or sinestra that is the question!
Well I'm left-eyed and partially left-handed (I'm right-handed for anything involving an implement, left-handed for everything else). So I guess that explains a lot...
Thanks again everyone, and I hope your Bank Holiday Monday is brighter than ours.
Rach1970 11 14 1 United Kingdom
27 Aug 2012 12:30PM
Wow - I would've never have believed that flipping it would make such a difference to the overall feel of it. Clever stuff Smile
netta1234 8 382 2 Wales
27 Aug 2012 12:32PM
Great rusty image
27 Aug 2012 1:47PM
Great shot, I didn't think flipping would make so much difference.
danbrann 15 640 17
27 Aug 2012 1:48PM
But have you tried inverting it with a square crop. A good image moira and photographed with good camera technique.
Jasper87 Plus
10 2.5k 158 England
27 Aug 2012 2:24PM
More cognitive thinking! I'm left-handed, left-eyed, right-footed, hold a cricket bat/golf club right handed, and am equally crap when throwing darts with either hand! v2 looks more balanced but not getting any emotional variations between them, perhaps I need to focus on more cogs to get my teeth into.

BarryC123 11 43 25 Ireland
27 Aug 2012 3:07PM
If you ask me, which you've probably got more sense than to do, this would look much better with them little pipes pointing up !
However whatever way you do it, it's a lovely image, and does seem to be raising that question again about right-to-left/left-to-right perceptions.
cats_123 Plus
16 5.0k 30 Northern Ireland
27 Aug 2012 3:15PM
I thought `flipping' was a tax dodge employed by MPs WinkGrinGrin
PranavMishra 8 52 18 India
27 Aug 2012 3:28PM
interesting and engaging.
taggart Plus
15 47 14 United States
27 Aug 2012 4:54PM
The reader--usually--- reads from left to right---words and images---right to left (usually) requires a bit more thinking to see what the image is saying

Now-- those who read right to left-- please comment-- how do you see it?
mrswoolybill Plus
13 2.1k 2238 United Kingdom
27 Aug 2012 6:40PM

Quote:But have you tried inverting it with a square crop.

Quote:If you ask me, which you've probably got more sense than to do, this would look much better with them little pipes pointing up !
I have just returned, somewhat tipsy, from an indoor barbecue (it's Bank Holiday Monday...), all these possibilities are making me feel dizzy. OK I'm feeling silly enough, Adobe here I come...
danbrann 15 640 17
27 Aug 2012 6:55PM
look out Bill I feel it could be your lucky night.
UrbaneMagick 8 172 1 United Kingdom
27 Aug 2012 7:13PM
rust, people loves it Smile

TrevBatWCC Plus
12 13 16 England
27 Aug 2012 7:24PM
Some fine speciamens of rust here, Moira, and good use of depth of field. Think V2 has to be my fave, with them all 'looking' from left to right Wink
Trev Smile
dmhuynh72 12 44 3 United Kingdom
27 Aug 2012 7:52PM
shallow DOF worked well, good detail and textures.
fentiger 19 920 24 England
27 Aug 2012 7:56PM
Your crop in No. 3 is a bit more severe than I envisaged. For me No. 2 remains the best of the bunch!

shush 9 1 7 Canada
27 Aug 2012 8:05PM
Excellent set of images. I like the detail and dof and for me I favour the V1.

gajewski 15 10 9 United States
27 Aug 2012 8:07PM
Great colors and nice gritty detail. Very nice use of DOF.
A fan of Neil Young?
pluckyfilly 13 351 33 United Kingdom
27 Aug 2012 8:55PM
Gosh Moira your comments get longer and longerTongue your pic today is exactly how I feel rusty and full of cobwebsWink when I try for similar they don't turnout as good as this
annettep38 9 219 42 Germany
27 Aug 2012 11:43PM
v4 Smile looks completely quirky. Rust works, it always inspires. So it can't sleep Wink
ChiliMan 13 135 17 Singapore
28 Aug 2012 4:04PM
Isn't is FAScinating how orientation completely changes things??? Goodness. My favourite here has to be V4, Moira. It looks like a collection of things laid out on a table. And it's reminded me of my old radio-controlled car days (good days) when gears and suspension bits were laid out as I took apart and modified the car/buggy. I must hasten to add that none of them were remotely rusty, though Grin

Nigel_95 Plus
14 262 2 United Kingdom
28 Aug 2012 11:37PM
You had the right lens to hand when you saw these Moira. the cobweb is the icing on the cake for me.

Tibetan 8 3 England
31 Aug 2012 5:43PM
Rust is! and will remain so! great stuff love it, regards leon.GrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrin
pascalg Plus
12 37 France
2 Sep 2012 4:00AM
superb colours & comp.
#3 for square Smile
tony64 16 204 9 England
2 Sep 2012 8:48AM
You always manage such beautiful textures and colours in your rust shots Moira!
Chinga Plus
9 3 2 United Kingdom
7 Sep 2012 10:00PM
Beauty out of rusty doo-das! GrinGrinGrinGrin Excellent! IB

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