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Death of a salesman.. Sins of the Fathers II

By Nick_w      
Thanks for both the GEA and User award on the last image.

This image is meant to be a prequal (or sequel, i've not decided yet) to "Sins of the Fathers" but just cant think of another title, thought of "The Black Sheep", "Like Father Like Son", "The Apple never falls far from the tree", I like the last one, but would really have mean't adding another element, and I don't think it needs anymore.

The suitcase elements are all one "Still life" composition, and no the hat hasn't been Photoshoped on, just a lot of bluetac - This is really what i'm trying to achieve with the still lifes and that is a back story - I'm not sure if that is what I have achieved.

I was thinking of putting up the base images for this, would anyone be interested or am I wasting my time (7 main images)?

EDIT: Ive now included the source images, just not bothered with a couple of me texture layers - which I use very sparingly anyway.

Tags: Specialist and abstract Close-up and macro Digitally manipulated Portraits and people Death of a salesman The darkside

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bluesandtwos 8 329 1 England
8 Apr 2013 8:41AM
As one who is just starting out on the composite image game, I would love to see where the various parts of the image come from!

Great image, thanks for sharing.


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mrswoolybill Plus
11 1.2k 1929 United Kingdom
8 Apr 2013 8:51AM
Where would we be without bluetac? The hat looks fine, the only detail that doesn't quite ring true here is the puddle under the empty bottle, there's no sign of it soaking into the wood.
Like this a lot, it's dark and austere, the toning conveys frayed at the edges and rather shop-soiled, which is what life does to us.
I hope you have a b&w too, though.
Nick_w Plus
11 4.3k 99 England
8 Apr 2013 8:56AM
TBH honest Moira, I don't have a Black and White yet (may just do one tho), as for soaking in, having worked in an old mill, with years of lanolin imprgnated into the floor, not a lot soaks in.
rontear Plus
15 8 8 England
8 Apr 2013 10:37AM
Well conceived and taken image Nick, related story.
JackAllTog Plus
9 5.0k 58 United Kingdom
8 Apr 2013 12:59PM
Superb - thank for sharing the details too, lovely.
Daisymaye Plus
9 23 16 Canada
8 Apr 2013 2:09PM
Very inspiring. Love how you've put all these together and made such an intriguing image......Sandy
SlowSong Plus
9 7.4k 30 England
8 Apr 2013 5:33PM
Even more impressive having seen the individual elements. I love the grungey yellowed look. Very well put together.
I wonder if the shirt cuff should be a little soiled. It does look rather clean, as does the newspaper, but I imagine they're new items whereas all the others are old and faded.
Richsr 11 91 223 England
8 Apr 2013 5:55PM
Well worked story, concept Nick, good to see your individual elements for this
Regards Richard
chase 12 1.1k 246 England
8 Apr 2013 8:20PM
I like this Nick,alomst-nearly there for me.
The liquid on the floor should be slightly it a whiskey bottle ?..if so then the spill should be more of an orange colour.
I like the position of the hat but to me it looks a bit floaty,needs grounding a bit more I think.
Great suitcase & contents & that picture on the wall is fab..I do like the fact that it's B&W & everything else is colour with a touch of an ochre cast.
Window is good,well done there,I like the buildings.
I find I want something sat under & slightly to the left of the picture on the wall...a Cat or even a dead bird,an empty glass,a smashed glass ( to go with the bottle) ..or something.just to complete the triangle of interest.
Well put together Nick,nice to see your originals too.
Nick_w Plus
11 4.3k 99 England
8 Apr 2013 8:39PM
Should have gone with my instincts Janet, I had 2 ideas, one was a cat, the other a Brocken Whiskey Glass !! May give it a rework. Do you think it's a fraction dark?, I'm wondering if I need to re profile my monitor, as I looked at it on another screen and it does look dark.
chase 12 1.1k 246 England
8 Apr 2013 8:47PM

Quote: Do you think it's a fraction dark?

On the smaller view perhaps it is but the larger image is the way to go with this.If you lightened it you would need to drop a bit more contrast on too else it would look washed out I think & you gotta watch the shirt sleeve & that wee bright triangle at the bottom left of the suitcase too.I think lightening it may lose the intimacy of the image & some of the story-line tbh,it looks sombre & foreboding as it stands Nick,sometimes we are guilty of over-working an image for no means ( I know I am Blush )

Quote:one was a cat, the other a Broken Whiskey Glass

LOL...great minds think alike...yeah,yeah,I know....fools seldom differ too !! Wink.....before someone else says it !
Eviscera 12 1.1k 149 United Kingdom
8 Apr 2013 9:40PM
An Englishman in New York ,

looks a good sound to me Smile
derekhansen Plus
9 210 24 United Kingdom
8 Apr 2013 9:44PM
Really well done Nick. Love the feel of the image overall. I think the idea of the cat would give a more obvious focal point and add a greater sense of mystery. Agree with chases re the colour of the spill and I think the hat would look more natural if it were hanging on the corner of the suitcase with the front of the hat facing down.(hopr that makes sense)
Nick_w Plus
11 4.3k 99 England
8 Apr 2013 10:28PM
Thanks everyone, I think it's an image I will return to. Janet your right re the colours, is just suffers when it compresses down.
Pete Plus
17 18.8k 97 England
9 Apr 2013 10:38AM
Great to see the original photos. Very creative.
stevenb Plus
14 265 6 England
9 Apr 2013 8:14PM
Well constructed Image and as Pete said all your own work. Well done.

Nick_w Plus
11 4.3k 99 England
9 Apr 2013 10:32PM
Thanks everyone. A big thanks Pete for the HC really appreciated Smile
AnnChown Plus
8 207 1 United Kingdom
10 Apr 2013 7:18AM
Very well conceived and constructed! Amazing work! I'm pleased you showed us the original images.
DaveU 12 1.4k 125 England
16 Apr 2013 4:42PM
I'm late, I'm late, I'm very very late Sad

A well worked and atmospheric image Nick, and nice to see the component pics too. The suitcase and it's contents are beautifully staged and fit the scene to a "T" though I must say that the spilt whisky doesn't work for me ..... wrong colour and it looks too thick, like a sheet of perspex. I fiind the portrait of the guy on the wall a little too large, it just overbalances the rest of the scene for me. Better a tad smaller perhaps?

And I'm just thinking that for added drama it would be fab if the window was open and the right-hand curtain was blowing in the breeze. That I think would really add to the story and get the viewer thinking even more ..... but then we'd be calling you Nick_Hitchcock Wink

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