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By Nigwel
Taken on a stroll from Camden Lock.

Another point and shoot, no RAW file, just jpeg.

Not the best but, again, I like it.


Tags: Architecture Wildlife and nature

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23 Mar 2014 12:12AM
Nice image.

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paulbroad 10 123 1250 United Kingdom
23 Mar 2014 8:14AM
Nice, but just needs a bit of finishing off. Clone out the very bright spot bottom right, then burn in the cyclists and scene through the arch a bit. Both slightly over exposed. Just inspect and correct the detail.

paulbroad 10 123 1250 United Kingdom
23 Mar 2014 8:59AM
Just read the comments on your previous image. You advocate no post processing and just viewing the image out of the camera. If that is the way you want to go, that's your decision, but, if so, you need to get it right in camera. Here you should have exposed for the scene through the bridge. Then the exposure would be correct out of the camera.

If you want to follow your route, you must master camera technique. And the camera will still get it wrong on occasion, it is an imperfect tool.

Coast 10 1.6k 292 United Kingdom
23 Mar 2014 9:27AM
Paul is absolutely right - if you do not like to process your images then camera technique is paramount to get the best out of the auto process the camera does for you.

The digital image you have taken is auto processed into a JPEG by the camera. This is based on algorithms pre-programmed into the camera to produce the image. A camera sensor can read quite a decent dynamic range but no where near that of the human eye where the brain is compensating for the degrees of light and tone we see. In one single exposure you are relying on the dynamic range of the sensor and the camera software to produce an average calculation to give an image.

So here you can see this in operation where the camera has tried to average it all out to give a reasonable and usable image. The canal boats in the distance are slightly over exposed as the cyclists are slightly under exposed.

With a RAW file you have the ability to edit for these various differences to correct. You can do it with a JPEG file in editing software but the image will not have all the data and has less tolerance to editing than the original RAW.

I started with film and my analogy in the modern day with digital is that using JPEG straight from the camera is a little like sending your film to Bonus Print to process and develop for you. All machine printed and averages produced from the negative. Using RAW and editing in software such as Photoshop is then akin to going into the darkroom and hand printing your work. Hand prints always give you a better finished image.

If using the camera processed image is what you prefer then there is nothing wrong with that. Equally for me, part of the whole process of producing images is in the processing and Photoshop/Lightroom/Aperture/Paint Shop Pro etc give the digital photographer his/her darkroom. In some instances, even with the best camera technique, you will need some level of human intervention in the processing to get the best out of the image.

mrswoolybill Plus
11 1.2k 1929 United Kingdom
23 Mar 2014 10:51AM
Given the inherent difficulties of the subject you have done pretty well, there's detail visible in both the sunlit areas and the shadows. But why the insistence on avoiding post-processing? It's not 'cheating', it's a different matter to 'image manipulation', digital art etc - it's simply part of the whole process. We all try to get it right in the camera, but that's the start of the story, like exposing a film. The digital camera's sensor captures available data, the photographer turns that into the finished image. Like darkroom processing but less messy and without the smells!

And while for many subjects jpegs are fine, this is typical of the area where Raw really is worth considering. Bright sun and dark shadow are both difficult to photograph, put them into the same composition and difficulties multiply.

With jpegs, the camera's 'brain' automatically selects the data that it thinks is important, a relatively small proportion of the total, it edits for you. You have no way of getting at the rest of the data, it hasn't been recorded.

Camera Raw (it's a word not an acronym) really does what it says on the can it records all the raw data available to the camera, 100%, without editing. It has its downside (it's a steep learning curve, it takes additional time, and storage space). For a subject like this, believe me, it would make a big difference! But the first priority should be to get to grips with basic editing.

Looking back over your comments on previous uploads, it would help if you let us know what you are looking for by uploading into the Critique gallery. We are here to give advice and to try to help people to progress . That covers both the taking and the editing of pictures. Let us know what you are trying to convey, capture. And how you hope to progress photographically. It's also important to consider other people's points of view, part of the ethos of the Gallery is to be able to see your own work through other people's eyes.
paulbroad 10 123 1250 United Kingdom
23 Mar 2014 3:22PM
Yes, the camera is simply a tool. A bricklayer has a trowel, often his favourite. My father in law was a bricklayer and often bought second hand trowels from car boot sales because they were, as he put it, worn in. The camera is a tool manufactured to certain standards and tolerances.

It does a certain job depending on your ability to manipulate it. Auto means some elses idea of what is right, the programmer. Youneed to use the tool to create the base image. Younthen use other tools in your virtual bag to finish the job off. Wrongly used, the camera, and the trowel, get it wrobg. Even correctly used, the joints need cleaning up and smoothing.


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