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The Bay Hotel. Robin Hood`s Bay. North Yorkshire.

By Nigwel
Trying to achieve an enhanced picture that would give it some depth!!

Can see anyway or changing this shot as I like it. Maybe the guy in the bottom left out of it but apart from that, it`s a nice photo.

Tags: Robin hoods bay Landscape and travel

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paulbroad 10 123 1249 United Kingdom
11 Mar 2014 7:42AM
You are making your own comments.

A bit busy in content with chopped off figures but this has to be HDR although you don't say it, and it is, I fear, not a good example. The tonal range is very flat and very wrong.

The chap bottom left has to go as does the red sign, bottom right. there are chopped off posts in the foreground. Treated as a normal image with full tonal range it is a reasonable pictorial record but I know the spot well and there are better vantage points.


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mrswoolybill Plus
11 1.2k 1929 United Kingdom
11 Mar 2014 8:57AM
Something odd has happened here, possibly in the course of your processing - this looks like a file that has been compressed to a very small pixel size and then enlarged again. Look at the way the image is breaking up in the sky, top and top right. Check that you are actually recording files at maximum quality!

You say that you were aiming for a sense of depth - think about what that means visually. It means the foreground being recognisably near, the background recognisably further away. For the eye to register that, the foreground needs to be sharper, the background softer; there needs to be a clear distinction between light and shadow, because shadows give a sense of depth and distance, splashes of light give zest and life. By evening out the tones throughout the image you are actually creating a flatter, more 2-dimensional feel.

I hope that you have kept the original (first rule of processing - always use Save as...) I would suggest that you go back and start from scratch, and aim for a less aggressive approach. You could upload the original here for Modifications.

As regards the composition, I like the guy bottom left but we need to be able to see more of him. A few more pixels above the chimney would help too. It's an old saying - the most effective zoom involves your own feet... Step backwards a bit.

I know this scene well. I actually prefer a more oblique view of the hotel, from higher up, looking down towards the sea with the hotel on the left. This viewpoint gives cleaner lines, a better sense of structure to the image; it also gives good possibilities for portrait composition.

dark_lord Plus
14 2.2k 540 England
11 Mar 2014 4:15PM
You do have a full range of tones in this image (I have checked the histogram), so it's not 'flat' from a contrast point of view. The lighting on this is from a flat overcast sky whichis good for details , but directional lighting would produce shadows and some modelling to the buildings.
Your processing has given it the cardboard cut-out look. Going back to your original and having another go with less severe processing should work better.

We all see things from a different angle, so there may be 'better' vantage points so it's worth exploring them all.

While the foreground does look cluttered it is in keeping with the scene. However, that red sign in the bottom right corner does draw the viewer's eye and I find myself reading it. This isn't what you want, you want people to explore the image.

If you need to wait for the right light, at least there's somewhere to have a pint!

dudler Plus
14 706 1352 England
12 Mar 2014 7:44AM
My guess is that you were going for a faded-postcard look with the processing. Sometimes, the processing becomes the thing, rather than the image, and the general feeling here is that you've gone OTT with it. However, if that was what you meant to do, it's a valid choice!

On the positive side, there's a lot going on, and you have what looks like a carefully thought out composition. The interest goes right to the corner - a bit of a summer seaside Breughel, to my eye.

As others have said, it woudl be interesting to see the original, and perhaps to post a modification. Because your processing is so extreme, it is just about impossible to modify without messing it up...
Nigwel 4 7
17 Mar 2014 2:33PM
I was going for a look that I liked.
We all have different eyes to see how good a photo is.
The effect is how I wanted it.
paulbroad 10 123 1249 United Kingdom
30 Mar 2014 8:18AM
You seem to make your own mind up before putting the image in here?


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