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I tend to agree about the pancake rock lighting and the use of the grads. You could use the Lee soft grads and offset them against each other if you have not tried this already. You may have a less obvious grad line.
But all the above is too some degree nit picking as this is a lovely image already.
Mark
But all the above is too some degree nit picking as this is a lovely image already.
Mark

Hi Paul,
This is stunning as it is. I can see what you mean about more light round the front of the rock, but it still looks good as an almost silhouette.
I'm not so keen on the sky, because of the yellow glow on the left edge and the light blue on the right edge. As you say another go with the sun further round and a different combination of grads will probably help. A good excuse to keep going back to what is obviously a great location. Whereabouts is it? Yorkshire?
Sheila
This is stunning as it is. I can see what you mean about more light round the front of the rock, but it still looks good as an almost silhouette.
I'm not so keen on the sky, because of the yellow glow on the left edge and the light blue on the right edge. As you say another go with the sun further round and a different combination of grads will probably help. A good excuse to keep going back to what is obviously a great location. Whereabouts is it? Yorkshire?
Sheila

Hi Paul. I like the composition here and can see why you're keen on the location. I'm not sure the blowing bracken detracts from the image at all but can see why you would want to get more detail in the pancake rock. Would a bit of flash help with that or would that take away from the natural colouring? Nick.

thanks all for comments
martin and gill, i don't know what caused the unusual sky at first i thought it could be the lee nd grads but they are good quality and impart no colour, unless the reduced exposure is having some effect on the film? as julian pointed out you can see the edge of the grads .9 & .6 hard running diagonal in the frame and the colour shift seems to be on that line.?
martin and gill, i don't know what caused the unusual sky at first i thought it could be the lee nd grads but they are good quality and impart no colour, unless the reduced exposure is having some effect on the film? as julian pointed out you can see the edge of the grads .9 & .6 hard running diagonal in the frame and the colour shift seems to be on that line.?

Hi Paul,
you could try staggering the grads so the gradation line of each doesn't fall across the same part of the image.
I've used a Lee 0.9 hard grad alone without these problems so I'm guessing it's the massive 5 stops reduction in exposure that's causing both the hard transition and the colour shift.
The other question is, do you really need to pull back the sky quite so much? Even Velvia can comfortably cover about four stops....
Cheers,
Julian.
you could try staggering the grads so the gradation line of each doesn't fall across the same part of the image.
I've used a Lee 0.9 hard grad alone without these problems so I'm guessing it's the massive 5 stops reduction in exposure that's causing both the hard transition and the colour shift.
The other question is, do you really need to pull back the sky quite so much? Even Velvia can comfortably cover about four stops....
Cheers,
Julian.

thanks for the advice Julian, yes you are right maybe i over did it a bit, but by the time i found my composition the sun, just out of frame, was growing quite strong. I will try staggering the grads if i have to use more than one or maybe use a combination of soft and hard. The darkness on the rock is probably been caused by the grads clipping into it staggering would probably help with that too.
i feel i have really learnt something, lets hope i have as good light in the morning - thanks again
i feel i have really learnt something, lets hope i have as good light in the morning - thanks again