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Brian_Scott 8 42 27 United Kingdom
28 Mar 2010 7:55PM
Wow that stare is stunning. Superb i love it

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28 Mar 2010 7:56PM
Sheer QUALITY Cheryl !! The detail is just superb as is the exposure & the BG Top Drawer............1st class !
Shroomer 11 14 167 England
28 Mar 2010 7:59PM
Great Barny portrait Cheryl
bricurtis 12 2.2k 49 England
28 Mar 2010 8:24PM
A beauty - great b/g to show this off.
28 Mar 2010 8:29PM
You've got to love this, brill. Chaz.
28 Mar 2010 8:43PM
Super crisp image.
Vince_S 8 10 England
28 Mar 2010 8:50PM
Very good image.
wyatturp 12 2 England
28 Mar 2010 9:15PM
Fab work well done!!!
28 Mar 2010 9:22PM
Superb detail a great shot...
shandoor 9 1 United Kingdom
28 Mar 2010 10:07PM
Beautiful image with superb detail and colours a well deserved award
28 Mar 2010 10:37PM
Spot on !!!
jonah794 8 1.7k 11 United Kingdom
29 Mar 2010 12:14AM
Fantastic! I uploaded a barn owl also today, but I have no hope of getting an EC like you just have. Congrats!
RonnieAG Plus
8 154 118 Scotland
29 Mar 2010 4:19AM
Excellent shot.
csurry 16 9.2k 92
29 Mar 2010 8:14AM
Thanks all.

Thanks Pete, funny that this gets an EC and the caper gets nothing Smile

I personally think the caper shots (yes I have others) are amongst the best I have ever taken, still you never know what other people will like or not like. I suppose a big black turkey like bird doesn't appeal to all.

Funny thing was that a group of us (not ePZ members, but club members) were discussing the pull of certain species and how well they would do against duller looking and/or more common ones.
csurry 16 9.2k 92
29 Mar 2010 8:32AM
Thanks for the UA Phil, not sure how I managed to miss that, most appreciated.
sherlob Plus
12 2.9k 129 United Kingdom
29 Mar 2010 10:20AM
Rather special this Cheryl.

For me it's not that your Caper shots haven't been good, its that this shot has something else... a timeless artistry about it. The bg is brilliant adding an almost spotlight glow, whilst the the patterning adds a sense of mystery. The single branch perch adds to this - and creates a sense of age. The owl becomes symbolic too - perhaps for wisdom? The eye contact forms a challenge to the viewer, and adds agian to the mystery. I find myself asking - what is the bird trying to tell me?

I know I'm reading far more into this than intended. But I rate this as one of your very best. Have my UA in recognition...

All the best,

csurry 16 9.2k 92
29 Mar 2010 12:31PM
Thanks Adam, but methinks you doth read too much in to the image.

The background was more of a fortunate accident, and actually this wasn't where the owl was supposed to perch initially, but she did look quite good up there. The location was only used because it was sheltered from the wind more than the others we had tried with other birds.

Thanks for the UA, means a lot, honest Grin
Pete Plus
17 18.8k 97 England
29 Mar 2010 12:40PM
The Caper didn't even make an impression...I read your comment about it and I suspect (I may be wrong) that some of what you feel about it being one of your best is down to your experience. This is something that is very difficult to pass through a photograph and in this case something I cannot share because the photo does not have that emotion attached...if that makes sense.
Coleslaw 12 13.4k 28 Wales
29 Mar 2010 12:42PM
I agree with Pete, your Caper shot might be your best experience, but it is definitely not your best work.
csurry 16 9.2k 92
29 Mar 2010 12:52PM
I understand that aspect, I guess the other thing is I have seen the caper printed at A1, it makes an impact then Wink

I don't think you can say that until you've seen more of the images Cole, I was judging from the three experiences with the caper spread over 12 months. I suppose there is a lot of personal attachment to them as well because I have had to wait more than a year to post any of them on here due to the sensitivity of the bird/location.
Coleslaw 12 13.4k 28 Wales
29 Mar 2010 12:57PM
Well, true, I can only judge by the only one I saw and at the size I saw it.
I am just not impressed, yet, so far. Plus, I don't know nothing about birds and how special they are. Just look like a black turkey to me at the moment.... LOL Smile
sherlob Plus
12 2.9k 129 United Kingdom
29 Mar 2010 1:22PM
Hi Cheryl,

I know I read more into the image than intended, but that does not make what I see invalid. Communication always involves at least 2 people, the person sending the message and crucially the person recieving. In this image I see a narrative, whether that was intended or not - it does not matter although this could be argued by some to be a miss-communication Wink. Some argue that for a narrative to exist in an image it should always be pre-visualised by the photographer, but in my experience this simply not true. A image will always serve form of communication. What message is seen is, I would argue, as much to do with the interpretation of the viewer as it is the intention of the photographer and sometimes the two are poles apart. In this way viewing photography becomes a form of interpretive hermaneutic (and at that I'll stop before getting wayyyy to philosophical).

Simply put. I like the image, and for me it tells a story.

csurry 16 9.2k 92
29 Mar 2010 2:43PM
I think the key is Adam that I see a shot I like but tend after much experience not to over-analyse why. I found over-analysis of my own ability/technique in many different aspects of my life led to more problems than it ever solved for me.

So now I look around at a photo opportunity and try to make the best of it without getting too analytical. I guess that what I like and thereby shoot also appeals to others.

I was asked by a couple of photographers on a recent break for chapter and verse on certain setups and images, I had to walk away because I did not want to analyse my work in the same way that they did (apertures, shutter speeds, focal lengths, etc., etc.). I worry that if I think about it too much I will lose some of the spontaniety and the creative flow (however limited) may stop and I will be unable to pre-visualise what I think will work.

So you're right I did pre-visualise the image, though I worried that in the final result the background would look too busy, and I waited for the moment of eye contact, because that is the point of connection. And from past experience I know that I personally don't like the 1 and a half or 1 and three-quarters eye look.

In some aspects of life it is referred to as "paralysis by analysis" Wink

So that's it I not analysing why this works for others and the black bird not, I'm just going to accept that some things do and some don't Grin
sherlob Plus
12 2.9k 129 United Kingdom
29 Mar 2010 3:56PM
Fairy snuff... and more than few bits of wisdom to boot Wink
Steve_S Plus
12 181 3 United Kingdom
29 Mar 2010 8:07PM
Excellent portrait Cheryl, perfectly exposed for all the fine detail in the whites and great eye contact. Congrats on the EC too!
Platchet 11 5 8 Wales
29 Mar 2010 8:46PM
Equally as good as the Caper but I can relate to the Caper being a personal best, both stunning images.
BarbaraR 12 17 1 England
25 Apr 2010 4:18PM
Many Congrats.

kfred 11 Sweden
1 May 2010 11:58PM
Got my vote.


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