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By Philo  
Another offering from Yorkshire Sculpture Park. I thought this would work well in mono so I had a bash. Conversion done in Adobe Camera RAW using the Grayscale mixer (8 separate colour channels). I will upload the colour version too for comparison or for anyone to try something different.
I originally had the camera set level on the tripod but instead decided to lay on the floor and shoot upwards. I thnk the lens distortion makes it more dramatic.
Looking forward to your comments and ideas.

Tags: Yorkshire sculpture park Black and white

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Richsr 11 91 223 England
26 Sep 2012 8:32AM
Good one work here Phil, they stand out well in this

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Focus_Man 8 481 631 United Kingdom
26 Sep 2012 9:46AM
Seems to be a good place to visit Phil. Nice picture no crits but I prefer the coloured version.

Philo 8 99 83 England
26 Sep 2012 11:03AM
Thanks guys, I prefer the colour too but I like to have a dabble at monos every now and then. It is a great place, Frank, and you only need to pay for parking.
Sooty_1 7 1.5k 221 United Kingdom
26 Sep 2012 11:29AM
I think the dramatic angle works fine. Squared up might have been a bit static, but as is, there is life in the picture.

Lit front on, there isn't as much texture as one would have liked, and I'm not sure why the mono one seems to lack impact, but I prefer the colour one too. Maybe there seems enough contrast but not a lot of colour, so I think I'd add a bit of saturation to give it 'punch'.

Your main problem (I think) is shooting in the middle of the day. Don't know about opening times, but more dramatic light would help. Good otherwise.

Sooty_1 7 1.5k 221 United Kingdom
26 Sep 2012 11:41AM
Just done a couple of 2 minute mods...not often I'm on my laptop!

Colour version pushed colour and midtone value, mono version tonal values adjusted and red filtration added.

Philo 8 99 83 England
26 Sep 2012 11:47AM
Thanks, Nick, I really love your mono, it now has some serious impact.Grin
You are correct about the light but I seldom get to places at the right time of day so it is a case of trying to make the best of the opportunity. I will go back though and I may even try lighting the sculptures with flashes.

alistairfarrugia 5 164 88 Malta
26 Sep 2012 12:50PM
I like Sooty's BW mod - it gives the picture greater depth and a "3D" effect which your variant wasn't as able to convey - the introduction of the gradient and some contrast really helped. Your BW looked a bit faded right away - in fact I prefer the colour variant if I had to choose. Sometimes, colours look very different but the minute you convert them to B/W you realise they have the same intensity and they look exactly the same in greyscale. Don't know if you were aware of that, and if not, keep it in mind! Might come in handy.

Regardless, the picture is nice and the trio-approach to the composition is good in my opinion. What I'd try avoid if possible is that tree coming out from behind the third monument (on right). The "intrusion" is a bit too big for a BG when compared to the subject size.
Philo 8 99 83 England
26 Sep 2012 1:13PM
Thanks, Alastair, I know very little about mono conversions so every bit of info helps. I agree with you regarding the tree but there is very little I could have done about it. I was on the floor but looking uphill. My only option would be to shoot it from the opposite direction.
alistairfarrugia 5 164 88 Malta
26 Sep 2012 1:37PM
Changing direction could have helped in fact, otherwise maybe through some editing maybe, trying to remove it digitally after the shoot. Cloning, healing brush, content-aware fills etc all can help.

Unfortunately, that tree also fell on a third in the picture so it does attract your eye (at least mine) a bit more than it should for a background item.
banehawi Plus
13 1.8k 3881 Canada
26 Sep 2012 5:10PM
The low angle, and the mono work well Phil. I like Nicks more dramatic version, - you have virtually limitless options with the amount of sliders you have.

Just so Im not left out, I will try something different.


Philo 8 99 83 England
27 Sep 2012 6:27AM
Thanks again, Alastair, it does look better without the tree. Willie, the aspect ratio works well and I do like both mods. As you say there are so many options.
paulbroad 10 123 1245 United Kingdom
27 Sep 2012 12:16PM
I like the compositionbut, and I've never thought this about your work before, I think it's a bit over exposed. I would darken, then using the colour sliders in mono mode, go for a near infra red effect. The sky screams for that. Am on my tablet, but will try and do a mod when on the desktop.

paulbroad 10 123 1245 United Kingdom
28 Sep 2012 7:52AM
I've tried my mod. Near infra red.
Philo 8 99 83 England
28 Sep 2012 8:12AM
Not sure the shot is over exposed, Paul, maybe it is to do with the conversion. Thanks for the mod, it certainly oozes impact, so I must have a go at that.

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