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Cartwright Hall 3

By Philo  
Third and last installment from Lister Park, Bradford.
This time I am offering 2 shots from a similar viewpoint.
Camera settings: f/11, 1/400s, 17mm, ISO 400
Many thanks for all the constructive comments and mods on yesterday's upload.

Tags: Architecture Landscape and travel

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moiral 8 12 Scotland
12 Nov 2010 1:28PM
2 lovely shots with beautiful lighting. Moira

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Philo 8 99 83 England
12 Nov 2010 1:31PM
Many thanks Moira.
DeSilver Plus
10 14 12 England
12 Nov 2010 2:24PM
Stunning images. It looks the sort of place that you would need to spend a couple of days there just to see how the light changes the look and colour/texture of the building through the day and especially just before sunset.

Philo 8 99 83 England
12 Nov 2010 3:12PM
Many thanks for your kind comments David.
Frank, I nearly got there, it's just those damn verticals again. You are of course right but I was sure I sorted it. I have a feeling that I did some final adjustments on the high res version but uploaded a resized image without this final bit of work. Or I am going mad!
achieverswales 7 8 101 Wales
12 Nov 2010 3:35PM
Excellent colours and composition, it has to be #1 for me!


banehawi Plus
14 1.8k 3890 Canada
12 Nov 2010 4:08PM
V1 is an excellent shot with some Wow factor. The light was really nice, and youve used the light to make a detailed, contrasty image that works very well.

V2, though good, lacks some of the sharpness and contrast of V1, - might be an optical illusion due to size though.


Philo 8 99 83 England
12 Nov 2010 5:11PM
Many thanks Trev & Willie, I'm glad you like it.
Jestertheclown 9 7.7k 252 England
12 Nov 2010 8:32PM
V1 for me Phil, for all the reasons that everyone's already put forward.
Personally I wouldn't concern myself with straightening it.
I've just opened it in Picasa and depending on which part of the image you align with the grid,
a corresponding part becomes misaligned on the other side.
The problem (if you can call it that) looks to me, more like Frank's old favourite, converging verticals and I think it's so slight as to be unnoticable.

I like it.

Philo 8 99 83 England
12 Nov 2010 8:41PM
Thanks Bren, it's definitely converging verticals that's the problem. As you can imagine the building looked like it was falling in on itself due to the low pov. I just think it's a basic requirement for this kind of shot so I hate being pulled up on it if you follow my meaning.
At least I seem to have ironed out the issues I had with the other shots from Lister Park.
Jestertheclown 9 7.7k 252 England
12 Nov 2010 9:19PM
Hi Phil,
Regarding the business of converging verticals, I couldn't agree more.
I think far too much fuss is made over it. In real life we see a certain amount of perspective so why do we atempt to remove it in our images?
There's a great example in the "Tell it" group in which a building looks as if it's practically falling over . It's so far out, you'd never get it back in processing but that's how it really looks.
As for ironing out the other issues, I reckon you certainly have!
paulbroad 10 123 1249 United Kingdom
13 Nov 2010 9:16AM
Nice image - V1 is best. Colours may be slightly over saturated for me, but depicts the evening light well. Would need a set square to decide on verticals - leave it alone - there's nothing wrong.


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