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By Ploughman
First time with this lens, a Tamron 70-300 on the K5. I have used it a great deal since 2007 on K100d and K20d. It has always focused very well. I never considered it would do any different on the K5. Well, it back focuses quite a bit and therefore I know what I will be doing tomorrow.
Taken at Donna Nook, just south of Grimsby an the east coast of England.

Tags: General Close-up and macro Wildlife and nature

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alistairfarrugia 5 164 88 Malta
5 Nov 2012 11:43PM
Modified this a bit, cropped, blur and noise-reduction to address posterisation in the original image, re-sharpened after resize. Hope you like the mod.

Did you sharpen this image a lot? There seems to be quality-loss in the image, possibly from over-sharpening or playing around with levels tool - there's clear sign of posterisation near the closest eye and in the fur (shadow/highlight area). Careful with that. Hope my mod, though more blurred, addresses these issues to your satisfaction.

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Focus_Man 8 481 631 United Kingdom
6 Nov 2012 9:14AM
One of those "Ah!" shots, maybe closer up on the face could also appeal.
alistairfarrugia 5 164 88 Malta
6 Nov 2012 9:21AM
Have to agree with Focus_Man... Frank right (trying to remember names now).
iancrowson Plus
8 211 146 United Kingdom
6 Nov 2012 12:28PM
Good appealing image. Composition is excellent. Selective focusing on the eyes effective and looks spot on to me. You did well getting that close.
alistairfarrugia 5 164 88 Malta
6 Nov 2012 12:39PM
Out of curiosity, what's this animal? An otter?
Ploughman 5 28 3 United Kingdom
6 Nov 2012 5:53PM
Thanks for your suggestions, the animal is a 7 hour old wild seal pup.
Not sure about your modification to the image, it does not look to be an improvement on my monitor. I`m not sure your monitor is calibrated correctly. How do you do your calibrations ?
I had a look at your website, some very nice images there. I particularly like your aircraft shots. My wife and I live on the climb out of RAF Coningsby, the home to The Battle Of Britain flight. By the time the modern jet Typhoons reach us they are very high indeed but, with the Spitfires, Lancaster, Hurricanes and Dakota (DC3) it is a bit different, the Lanc is still on full power and climbing away in majesty. 18 miles to the north is RAF Scampton the home of the Red Arrows, we see them flying regularly.

Focus Man,
Ah, indeed. A closer shot would look good. Thanks for having a look.

Thank you Ian, the shot was hand held in a strong wind. I have more and may post another soon.

alistairfarrugia 5 164 88 Malta
6 Nov 2012 6:02PM
Not sure if this might be the case of seeing the same image in a different manner, but your image looks very grainy and colours are exhibiting some posterisation. I've seen this image on both my work computer and my home computer, and the grain and posterised colours look the same. I calibrated brightness based on the calibration tool on ephotozine itself, but other than that I didn't do anything else. Could this be related to the colour profile? That debate about Adobe and sRGB - not too familiar with the theme but I know it's a possible reason why two people see the same image differently.

Finally, thanks about your comments re: my work - I appreciate. It would be lovely if I lived there, as I absolutely love WW2 aircraft! Pity we don't have them flying here. Only one Hurri in flying condition here, but no one ever takes her up for a flight!
banehawi Plus
13 1.8k 3862 Canada
6 Nov 2012 6:54PM
What post processing modifications have you done with this image? Do you still have the original you could upload as a modification? Theres are a number of very odd looking areas in the seal fur, blue, orange, yellow, combined with a complete absence of fur detail in these areas. Behind the Pup, theres bluish areas, and the grass appears over sharpened all over.

I cant really add any suggestions unless I see the original shot, as I cant tell if youve introduced some issues, or if they are original. The over sharpening is certainly a function of post processing.

Also, - make sure you assign the sRGB colour space to images uploaded to the web to ensure browsers can interpret colours correctly, - some, as in all except Firefox cannot handle un tagged images correctly.


alistairfarrugia 5 164 88 Malta
6 Nov 2012 9:40PM
Well thanks Willie, seems I'm not the only one to notice those issues then! Smile The original SOOC shot would help here I guess.
Ploughman 5 28 3 United Kingdom
6 Nov 2012 9:58PM
Hi folks, yes I have the original and will post it soon. At the moment I am not an e2 member and I think I am limited to one small sized image per day.
Thanks for all your help.
banehawi Plus
13 1.8k 3862 Canada
6 Nov 2012 10:08PM
No, you can upload it now, as a modification. Just select modifications, then upload, thats it.

iancrowson Plus
8 211 146 United Kingdom
6 Nov 2012 11:21PM
I've looked at the original and mod on four screens and three browsers. The mod is not good on any and is particularly poor on my calibrated (with Spyder) iMac screen using Safari. I would add to your advice that alistair checks out his monitor.
I would recommend following Willie advice, it will be useful. I've seen a few instances on this sight were people are seeing the same image very differently due to monitor or browsers differences. It not fully realised how browsers read, not just HTML, but colours differently.
Still a well composed and cracking image,
alistairfarrugia 5 164 88 Malta
6 Nov 2012 11:44PM
Ian, I checked this out on two monitors and my mobile phone - same issues occur on each display. I don't think it's a question of monitor calibration here. I hazard to guess that the JPEG was a limiting factor, and that meddling with either saturation, exposure, contrast, sharpness or all of these elements resulted in a picture that is clearly displaying posterisation and high-noise. The original image further proves my original point, as these issues are not present.
iancrowson Plus
8 211 146 United Kingdom
7 Nov 2012 8:00AM
Lets wait for Willie to come with his advice, Willie has years of expertise. I have a fair amount of photoshop experience myself but would never jump in with advice based on assumptions/ guess's made by looking at a 600 pp images.
paulbroad 10 123 1238 United Kingdom
7 Nov 2012 9:44PM
Decent shot. Know the area well. North Lincs born and bred. Would prefer a tighter shot on the face and there is an element of blue. The image does look a bit over processed. I vet the feeling that many people try and go too far. Most images need a density and contrasr adjustment, a bit of dodging and burning in, the a slight sharpen. Nothing more.

banehawi Plus
13 1.8k 3862 Canada
8 Nov 2012 2:42PM
I can see your dilema that youve tried to address in the mod following your upload of the original. The original is a very good shot, thats underexposed. You used a -1/3 compensation, where a + 2/3 or so was needed.

When the exposure is resolved, it looks quite good. Its then very clear that the discoulouration on the pup are remnants of the birth, and are simply a dark tone.

What this image has though that makes it special, is the (presumably) mother in the background, in a pose that is suggestive of exhaustion. I would definitely leave her in, and go for a wider crop.

So, the mod has exposure corrected, slight contrast boost, very slight sharpening of the pups head, and Ive enhanced the pups eye by lifting the shadows, and lightening the catchlights.

Hope this is helpful.

Ploughman 5 28 3 United Kingdom
8 Nov 2012 4:06PM
Thank you Willie,
In the original post I mentioned that the pup was born seven hours previously. Yes the exhausted mother is in the background and afterbirth from this pup and plenty of others is all around. It was a grab shot done in jpeg and as the camera tends to overexpose slightly the e/c was set to -1/3.
It is good to see how observant you are. There is indeed afterbirth dried on to the pup.


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