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The bird and the rose

By queengu21
This photo is composed from several layers and i know that the propotions of the bird and the rose are not true but i wanted to emphsis the fact that the bird is singing about the beauty of the rose. Couple of technical quistions:1] i sharpened only the rose and not the all photo what do you think? 2] Is there a way of integrating the music notes into the photo that will make it more "natural"? {what i did was to add a shadow to the notes to make them \more 3D}
Regards Ely

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7 5.1k 125 United Kingdom
22 Mar 2013 10:07AM
I rather like the whole idea, one which has been very well crafted and presented.

In answer to your question: If you changed the colour of the musical citations to black or grey, then alter the opacity to around 40% before adding a slight bevel you may achieve something which is a little less obstrusive.

Hope this helps Ely

Regards Nathan

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johnke Plus
5 223 15
22 Mar 2013 10:07AM
Love your work and how much though you apply...John
JuBarney Plus
6 26 3 United Kingdom
22 Mar 2013 12:09PM
A lovely presentation; had thought from the thumbnail you had a thrush which might make it even better
Jasper87 Plus
7 1.9k 150 England
22 Mar 2013 12:26PM
Like the idea and the shapes fit together well, Ely. Nathan's idea sounds pretty good as well.

mrswoolybill Plus
11 1.2k 1852 United Kingdom
22 Mar 2013 12:36PM
The rose, the desaturated background, the bird with its pattern overlaid, its shadow, the yellow notation - there's just too much going on.
A couple of suggestions for a fresh start - keep the bird natural; flip the basic composition horizontally so that the bird is on the left, and then add the musical notation to read rightwards starting at its beak. (You cannot just flip the image as it stands or the notation will be backwards). It's meaningless to put a treble clef at the end by the way, just leave the one at the beginning.
paulbroad Plus
10 123 1218 United Kingdom
22 Mar 2013 2:18PM
Why would you want it to look natural. This is a fine strong graphic/photographic image ideally suited to use by a craft worker. My wife makes a lot of cards and thought this was rather nice. You have done what is needed very well indeed. The photograph is crisp and sharp and the exposure correct. The added graphics are also very concise with no joins visible. Might just brighten the bird up a bit.

This should be viewed as a creation rather than a photograph.

I like it. Well done.

22 Mar 2013 4:00PM
Hi there, first off, well done on the thought you've put into this. Thing is though, there are some problems in execution that might belittle the effort you did here. First of all, if you want to give the image a "realistic" imagery (the bird is singing about the rose's beauty), then in my opinion the bird and the rose should be presented as naturally as possible, and that includes the proportions, pose of the bird, and the presentation of the bird itself. For starters, the effect to me only serves to make the bird stand out rather than put it in context. Moreover, it adds an extra "layer" in the message that is unrelated to your original thought. I ask, why is the bird presented in this way? And whatever the answer, it's unrelated to the idea of a bird singing about beauty. So I would probably not add that effect on the bird.

Secondly, the bird's pose would be more applicable for a perch, rather than a leaf. You positioned the bird on a leaf in the background and it looks very unrealistic. Again, this detracts from the message you wanted to send, same argument about realistic vs made up that I did above. In a nutshell, if my mind immediately tells me the bird is fake, I cannot relate to the message you want to convey.

And finally, I think the shadow on the bird was thought wrong, judging by the shadow on the rose. Try to include a shadow that goes in the same direction as the petal's shadow, not in another direction.

You should also take heed of Nathan's comment about the notes, and I think the picture would improve. Just my 2 cents anyway! Smile

Still, well done once again on the thought behind this. I can see such pictures being used in the context mentioned by Paul for instance.
I would like to thank every one of you about her/his honest opinion and criticism on this work of mine. It is a new experience for me and i will try to benefit from it.
22 Mar 2013 6:18PM
Ely, that is exactly the purpose of the critique gallery. I'm glad you found these comments helpful. Keep them coming and well done!

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