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Serra do Mendro

By riobom
When turning the earth the birds appear to feed, this photograph does not show the tractor that was working. should I include it?
What do you think about the frame? there is some negative space on the left?

Tags: Landscape and travel Fields and Farmland

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chase Plus
15 2.0k 517 England
7 Nov 2019 11:41AM
Hi Vasco,
To answer your question... yes I think you should have included the tractor to give this image a little more impact.As it is, it's not really capturing my interest.
Looks a touch over exposed me, the highlights on white birds are quite over done and the contrast looks a little low.
I do like the shapes and colours of the intersecting fields.
I will have a go at a mod, see what happens.
chase Plus
15 2.0k 517 England
7 Nov 2019 11:53AM
I did have a go for you but this image is very small, did you resize it or crop ?

I cropped from the bottom, increased contrast on the fields and beyond.
Had a go reducing the highlights but sadly they are too far gone and I could nothing with them.
I was tempted to crop from the top too but the tree and mountains in the bg do give this a sense of scale.
chase Plus
15 2.0k 517 England
7 Nov 2019 12:00PM
Hmm, the mod has uploaded twice, sorry, wasn't me, I only clicked once.
riobom 1 1 Portugal
7 Nov 2019 12:04PM
thanks a lot, Chase for your critic, I probably crop.
Of course, I have others with the tractor, it is one of a sèries.
In fact, the birds are overexposed, i didn't, touch the exposure so it ould look like a watercolor.
banehawi Plus
16 2.4k 4202 Canada
7 Nov 2019 1:32PM
I would think the tractor could add interest, depending on position and colour.

Depending on the software you use (I used Photoshop) you can emulate a painted look, and Ive done this in mod 3.


mrswoolybill Plus
14 2.5k 2346 United Kingdom
7 Nov 2019 3:15PM
You've asked some questions, I'll start with those.

Yes, I would like to see the tractor. What this lacks for me as it stands is a real focal point, the tractor would be the human activity interest as well as explaining the birds.

Framing, negative space... Off-centre placement generally works. But I think you first need to consider format and overall effect before thinking about negative space. When you view this, which way do you want the viewer's eye to travel? My eye wants to explore upwards, through the birds towards the tree and then the sky. But landscape format - horizontal frame - leads the eye sideways.

And then a question from me - do you use the histogram? It's the graph that shows the relative distribution of tones in the frame, from white to black, it looks like a cross-section through a mountain range. The histogram for this shows almost nothing but midtones, so the result looks flat, it lacks a sense of depth and distance.

I've uploaded two modifications, the first is a portrait crop which leads the eye to explore upwards more readily. I cheated and moved a couple of birds, then made a Levels adjustment to the histogram to increase tonal range.

Then a bit of fun - a contrasty, grainy b&w. I reckon this makes much more of the birds and the tree.

See what you think, these are just suggestions. The Critique Gallery is really about seeing one's work through other pairs of eyes.

pamelajean Plus
15 1.5k 2189 United Kingdom
7 Nov 2019 8:49PM
I like the layered effect that split the image into thirds, which is very satisfying, as are the different colours and textures of each section.

Although I would welcome the inclusion of the tractor, you do already have a strong focal point with the tree, which you have positioned quite effectively. That positioning needs the negative space on the left.

Just a touch more sky and a little less brown ground would bring a more satisfying split, and allow the top of the tree some more breathing space. Simply holding the camera up a bit would achieve this.

dark_lord Plus
16 2.7k 738 England
7 Nov 2019 9:47PM
Hi Vasco,

As the tractor was working it would help the story so much if it were present, and especially as thr birds occupy a relatively small area of the frame.
The space on the left doesn't add to the image, and while to me it doesn't detract, the composition is stronger woithout it.

The image is soft.
At first I considered focus error. Looking at the exif it is taken at a long focal length for that camera so even at 1/400 there may have been a little movement, enough to take the edge off the image. I guess this is cropped too and that would further reduce sharpness or at least highlight any part of technique that isn't a hundred percent.
Given that, you could have shot at ISO 200 and still got good quality but with a bit of a safety net as regards shutter speed and aperture.
Exposure overall could be less as the colours are pale. If you have time, check your histogram, adjust expopsure and reshoot. Once highlight detail has gone it can't be recovered.
dudler Plus
17 1.5k 1777 England
8 Nov 2019 5:11PM
I'd like to see the tractor. Negative space? Maybe, but my feeling is that it looks a bit undercropped - negative space needs to be big!

My main thought, though, is that this kind of shot needs technical perfection - sharpness, detail, perfect exposure so that there's detail in highlights and shadows, so it's not really a subject for a compact camera. Unless you take the approach Moira's taken with mod 5 - go for an impression, move away from colour, perhaps, or at least make it aobut something other than the furrows and the birds and the trees...

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