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brian1208 Plus
14 11.3k 12 United Kingdom
4 Aug 2006 7:05PM
Good placement and pose with excellent sharpness. The sky is well exposed but I feel the underside of the body and head are underexposed as a result.

The light through the wing and tail feathers is beautiful though and I do like the overall presentation

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Beautiful sky, good detail in the bird. Like the composition.
4 Aug 2006 7:06PM
Amazing shot. Well done

Mayfly Plus
12 485 2 United Kingdom
4 Aug 2006 7:08PM
I agree with Brians comments about the exposure although I don't think its that big a deal to spoil the shot- nothing a small levels tweak won't sort out Wink everything else is spot on.


albi Plus
13 68 1 England
4 Aug 2006 8:42PM
You've not put down any shooting details in your description so I haven't got a clue what exposure you took this shot at.

If this critique gallery is going to work it needs as much information as possible put down in the description.

When shooting birds in flight or perched with a bright sky you need to overexpose the image, some times as much as 2 stops to retain colour and detail and stop the subject being silhouetted or dark.

Judging by the lens used you could of also used a flash unit.

I've found that a slight tweak on the levels does not always work, the right exposure is much better in the first place.

Other than it being a bit too dark the capture looks good, love the wing spread and open beak.
piccy Plus
11 8 Wales
4 Aug 2006 8:48PM
Lovely position you've caught the bird in. Like the way you can see the wing detail , superb focusing. I also feel it could do with lightening a little - other than that its a well caught image.
ron thomas Plus
13 11 1 United Kingdom
4 Aug 2006 9:41PM
Oh dear! I think I may have slipped up here! I was uncertain about the critique thing so I just ticked the box to see what happened. I don't think I will do so again. I must thank everyone for the comments and assure everyone that I respect what has been said. I hope I don't sound a tad snobby, that isn't my intention but I feel I must explain about the shot....

I like it the way it is.

I had been looking forward to this years trip to the Farne Islands since my last trip 2 years ago. One of the aspects of the Tern behaviour that I was looking forward to record (armed with my experience of 2 years ago) was that which is shown in this shot. I hope it's value is illustrative and indicates to someone who is not familiar with the bird, it's habits and it's locality, just what happens when an uninvited creature (it happens here to be a human, but could be a fox etc) moves too close to it's nest. As an illustration I think it succeeds but no one is obliged to agree.

Photographically I have done quite a bit to the original file. Crop, levels, history brush, warm up filter (used negatively to make the sky bluer than it was) and high pass sharpening. To me this was the image I remember from the time I released the shutter and was the picture I had been anticipating for 2 years.

To take the picture, I shot from chest height with the lens set to wide (24mm). I did not look through the viewfinder, but chose to anticipate the moment for shutter release. The use of flash, although not impossible would be difficult in these circumstances (I used fill-in flash extensively with my film cameras for wedding photography).

I know it's not every one's cup of tea but that's the sort of thing that I do. Please feel free to e-mail me if you are interested in any more of my waffle.

Best Wishes,

glazzaro Plus
13 70 23 United States
5 Aug 2006 4:43AM
An engaging shot Ron, I think you have captured the Terns fierce protective nature. Spot on! Click!!!


P.S. I think most will realize that the critique feature is not going to be exactly what they expected.... I am like you, its about the nature of the shot and the subject. Have a great weekend and good shooting.
tomcat Plus
12 6.4k 15 United Kingdom
5 Aug 2006 12:10PM
great angle Ron...hope you didn't rick your neck taking it

leeg Plus
14 165
5 Aug 2006 1:34PM
Love the pose and composition. Superb. I agree with Brian1208 and Albi about the underexposure and I also see what you're saying ron. I do think though that if this were the real thing and I was looking at the Tern, the underside would be less shadowed at that distance and whilstthe exposure isn't that far off, a bit more would have allowed more light through.

Personally, I think this critique thing is fantastic - anonymous photos will get more constructive criticism and people will learn more.


ValSaxby Plus
12 146 United Kingdom
13 Aug 2006 10:28AM
A great capture Ron. This is the sort of shot I would love to take and found your explanation of the method used very helpful. Excellent work

Brilliant capture
Leightonhs Plus
11 155 1
13 Jun 2007 1:24PM
Oh wow, what a fantastic angle you caught the bird at, to be honest if I had taken this shot I'd be very happy! In regards to your comment about the fire accident, I emailed the photos into my local echo and they printed them the following day but the story was mostly about people who capture photos can send them to the echo not the actual incident! But you're right about the insurance company, it would be valuable evidence. No one has contacted me or the echo about that though.
very nice portfolio nice shots

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