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By Sillu
I used the same settings for this a the other and used the flash to minimize the shadows,
Bare with me as i am new to portraits..
This i shot raw and arrenged it with lightroom insted of my mobile...
Every body is telling me ( missing exfil ) what more exfil should i do ?

Tags: Blue Portraits and people Maroon

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Chrism8 13 957 27 England
7 Feb 2017 6:48AM
Morning Silo, for me this isn't a portrait, its a shot of a girl in front of a load of boats and blue sky, a subject as a portrait should reasonably occupy most of the frame, certainly imo at least two thirds.

The image looks over exposed, you've done well to mostly balance the harsh midday light with the flash, but you'd be better trying again either early morning or late evening when the lights softer or finding some shade and adding some fill flash.

If you look in the gallery, the image uploaded prior to yours is a good example off a well done portrait, soft lighting, nicely framed and there's no doubt as to what the subject is, I'd have preferred eye contact with the lens, but that's being picky.

mrswoolybill Plus
13 2.3k 2266 United Kingdom
7 Feb 2017 8:11AM
We have the complete arm and hands here, that's good, she has space to pose; but there's far too much sky! Your fiancée's head is half way down the frame - that's too low for a conventional portrait pose, which this is.

The background also looks a bit tilted here. Look at the reflection of that blue and yellow boat, it should drop down vertically, it doesn't...

Your Exif isn't showing flash used, and the contrast on the face is greater here than in your previous upload while there is less disparity between foreground and background light - I suspect that it didn't fire here?

John raised the question on yesterday's as to whether this is a real background or a large poster, it does look more natural here.

Modification to follow - rotation, crop, a bit less contrast on the face...
mrswoolybill Plus
13 2.3k 2266 United Kingdom
7 Feb 2017 8:30AM
Modification uploaded - this puts the eyes at 1/3 down from the top of the frame, a much more comfortable level.
dudler Plus
17 1.3k 1698 England
7 Feb 2017 10:57AM
This has got all the EXIF data showing, and it's embedded in the picture file, so I think that using Lightroom instead of your mobile has been successful!

Shooting at 1/1000 is a problem with most flash units - it won't allow the flash to synchronise properly with the shutter. Some dedicated flash units can do it, though - making it important to know what flashgun you used here. For general flash work, there's a maximum shutter speed that will let things work properly - I generally use 1/100 or so, but I know that Alpha 7 bodies go higher - though I admit that I don't know what the highest synch speed is... (Even though I use Alpha 7 bodies!)

Moira's mod is good - and I am gradually concluding that this was shot out of doors, and not in a studio - though I am still not certain...
paulbroad 13 131 1289 United Kingdom
7 Feb 2017 10:57AM
This is rather better, but I tend to agree with the improved composition as above. It is a portrait, of course, an environmental one.There is still that slight over exposed/flatness about the image. Not as much as before, but there is a lack of density and contrast.

banehawi Plus
16 2.3k 4163 Canada
7 Feb 2017 4:21PM
A lot better; its very obvious that using the phone and Snapseed is not the way to go. Snapseed is likely fine, but its the display that matters most.

Same general comments as above

A portrait is generally, face, or face and shoulder occupying the full frame; 80 - 120mm roughly is the best focal length. so you need to get a lot closer here, and leave the aperture where it is or wider, - f/2.8, carefully focusing on the eye closest to the camera.

Mod uploaded, rotated, colour balance, exposure.


paulbroad 13 131 1289 United Kingdom
8 Feb 2017 9:23AM
What we accept as a portrait is often the close head and shoulders view, however, that is not the dictionary definition. Providing the subject, be it human or animal, can be recognised, it is a portrait. Thus a group of pilots in front of there aircraft is a portrait of that group. That would be a portrait. A farmer in front of his tractor with wide fields in the background is a portrait.

A portrait is a painting, photograph, sculpture, or other artistic representation of a person or persons, in which the face and its expression is predominant. The intent is to display the likeness, personality, and even the mood of the person. For this reason, in photography a portrait is generally not a snapshot, but a composed image of a person or persons in a still position. A portrait often shows a person looking directly at the painter or photographer, in order to most successfully engage the subject with the viewer.

Terminology can be confusing and variable. It depends on the dictionary and personal opinion and, frankly, does it matter?


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