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The working shoes

By Sillu
I used the soft box 140cm...
Is there a lot of noise ?

Tags: Fashion Boots Shoes Fatigue


mrswoolybill Plus
13 2.3k 2265 United Kingdom
15 May 2017 2:36PM
Yes, there's noise, it's particularly noticeable in the shadows. You expect it at 1600 ISO. There's also a pronounced blue cast. And judging by the Exif there wasn't actually that much light!

I wonder what the object of the exercise was? Was it simply to test out high ISO performance? I would suggest that there is not a lot to be gained from that unless you also aim to get a satisfying image from the exercise. Look at the other aspects of the image, see what could be done better. There's a strong idea in this, but I don't think you have really used its full potential.

If you want to make a picture that people will enjoy looking at, rather than a technical test shot, a few suggestions. Very shallow depth of field doesn't really work when the subject is at 90 degrees to the camera, as the left (to us) shoe is. Here only the very tip of the toe is sharp, that's far too little for an arrangement of two large items. For this angle to work you need much greater depth of field. The arrangement would work better if that shoe was diagonally placed, and with a smaller aperture. You would still get a gentle dropping away of sharpness.

The second shoe is entirely out of focus, angling it forward and / or use of a smaller aperture would give a better chance of success.

And the cut-off lace at the top looks so awkward. Show more of the shoe, and make sure the lines are connected.


pablophotographer 9 1.7k 383
15 May 2017 2:40PM
Hello Sillu. I am seeing this from a device I cannot confirm if it has noise. But it has lots of other issues to consider and re-evaluate. Composition, background choice, colour, lighting and camera settings. I would say that the left shoe focused sharply on the tip and just the well balanced heel would be enough for a beautiful frame. I will do a mod when I can, maybe not today though.
Kindly, pablophotographer
banehawi Plus
16 2.3k 4163 Canada
15 May 2017 7:24PM
First, noise.

This should have NO visible noise at ISO 1600 from a Sony A7 mk2. But it has. So, why.

What contributes to noise is underexposure, on post processing the image is brightened which increases ambient noise that not visible in a properly exposed image.

Post process itself, if you shot in JPEG, can also amplify noise; cropping tight from a large original can amplify noise so its visible.

One or more of these factors are at lay here; surprisingly, the image of the shoes is indicating under3exposure! Not the surrounding area, just the shoes.

Mod uploaded, colour balance, noise reduced, exposure corrected. But why take this shot at all? Why the angled shoe completely out of focus?

Sillu 5 Malta
15 May 2017 7:38PM
I set the exposure just roght so the shoes is barely visible then i lit up the shoes by a big 140 cm soft box..
What did i do wrong about the noise?
I swithed off the DRO as well.

So why the shoes..? **

I believe there as a great picture somewhere in those boots i gues i haven't brought out the character yet of them
pamelajean Plus
14 1.4k 2157 United Kingdom
15 May 2017 8:30PM
The red in the background is not an ideal colour for the shoes, Sylvester, or for a lot of other subjects, either, because it's an eye-catching colour, and what you need is something far more subtle. Also, the image needs straightening, there is a tilt to the left.

You could treat the shoes as a still life subject, and even add one or two more elements for effect.
But I'd like to see more of them in focus, not just the tip of one of them.
The tilted shoe looks larger then the other one, although I'm sure it's not, and I am imagining it trying to squash the one underneath it.

If you get a good composition for the shapes, and lots of texture denoting the "working" aspect of the shoes, you might want to try a black and white version. You said you're seeking to bring out their character, so this might be an option to work on.

dark_lord Plus
16 2.6k 694 England
15 May 2017 8:46PM
I too think there's a picture to be had, but it needs some more work.
The red rather dominates the image, taking attention from the boots, so see if you can choose something more neutral.

The focus is on the tip of the shoe and there's litlle interest or character there. If it was really scuffed or worn it's be a point of interest. Or if the laces wer particularly worn, focus on them. Well worn footwear would work better, otherwise go for the whole object but as has been suggested use a smaller aperture to get all of them sharp.

Just a few thoughts to keep you going.
pablophotographer 9 1.7k 383
16 May 2017 7:52AM
hi Sillu.
I can not remember how I visualised yesterday my mod.
I offer today a vertical rather than a horizontal frame which features both shoes but mainly retains the attention on the ''tired'' one Smile
Red and brown are close warm colours and near enough to each other in the colour pallet
so I think as background the problem lies there given this proportion; it is mostly the white which is bright that seemed the odd one there.
Focusing as I said (and aperture value) are right for me since the emphasis is given to the ''wearing out'' of the shoe.
Best regards,
Robert51 11 7 106 United Kingdom
16 May 2017 9:25AM
First may I say that I'm not sure about the image. As a study in DOF it works well. As a picture within itself, for me it fails. The idea is good but the interest is in the the sideways shoe and the laces. Both of which are out of focus. If you had moved the focus field a little further back I feel it would have worked well.

The mod I have taken your image and your idea and tried to turn it into a picture. I hope making it a picture in it's own right. Hope you like it...
Sillu 5 Malta
16 May 2017 10:44AM
Thanks to all.. i will see the mods in a sec..
But can someone tell me why at iso 1600 the noise came out ? I shot raw
I used the softbox as well.
Sillu 5 Malta
16 May 2017 6:45PM
The mods are very nice !
Sillu 5 Malta
16 May 2017 7:04PM
I uploaded the second one in black and white but i forgot to press the critique button :/
dudler Plus
17 1.3k 1698 England
18 May 2017 6:38PM
I'm not sure that I understand what you mean about setting the exposure.

If you use flash, you need to set aperture to suit the flash, and a shutter speed that will allow exposure of the full frame. 1/40 will do.

In the menus, you can adjust the viewfinder (page 3 of the cog settings, top item) - Live View Display - to show the result you will get without flash (Setting Effect ON), or to give a good image in the viewfinder, but not showing the effect of white balance, exposure, and so on (Setting Effect OFF). This allows you to frame the subject properly when using flash.

Were you aware of this function?

But, with flash, neither setting will show how the flashlit picture will look.

In processing, did you alter the brightness at all? And did you apply sharpening or any effects filters, such as Nik Efex? That will always increase the appearance of noise.

And Willie's right: 1600 is not a lot for the 7 II (and is quite a low setting for the 7r II).

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