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lcmerrin 16 17 England
25 Feb 2005 12:49PM
It's good but you should have left in the woman from the far platform - she gave it more perspective! Good shot though! Click

silvina 16 9
25 Feb 2005 12:51PM
O.K., next time. I went for a complete loneliness idea.
richshep 18 11 United Kingdom
25 Feb 2005 12:59PM
Hi Silvi. I like this in b&w but I think the figure in the frame on the left in the prevoius shot added a bit of menace to the image, which I liked.
lcmerrin 16 17 England
25 Feb 2005 12:59PM
No its good! You can still see the outlines of the people who you've cloned out - I don't know if that was intentional but it adds to the atmosphere as they look like ghosts
vfr400 19 886
25 Feb 2005 1:11PM
I like this, especially the reflection melting into the floor.

jkcuddihy 16 72 1 Ireland
25 Feb 2005 1:12PM
the black and white adds to the loneliness feel about the image. A small criticism - I would have moved the good lady over to the left a little - would have given better structure to the composition - the intersection of thirds idea. Otherwise superb depth. If I had a choice, I'd go for the colour version.

silvina 16 9
25 Feb 2005 1:17PM
Oh, no, it was not my intention. As i said in my previous photo, my cloning skills are not too good, and I did it during my 6 months old baby nap, so the result is not very good. Motherhood and photography sometimes are not compatible.
silvina 16 9
25 Feb 2005 1:18PM
But what I like about this site is that it gives you the opportunity to try new things.
25 Feb 2005 1:34PM
Buenisima la perspectiva de esta foto. Me gusta mas la version en B&N. Click. Alejandro.
silvina 16 9
25 Feb 2005 1:57PM
Thanks and gracias. I prefer the color one too, but somebody said that a B&W version could be nice, so I did it.
Goatsmilkuk 15 783
25 Feb 2005 2:32PM
I like this and the colour same subject but very different.

The colour one feels warm and safe.

The B+W feels cold and very alone almost horror film cover.Could be the last picture ever taken of this woman,

Well done it got my imagination working (scary I know)

bauer 16
25 Feb 2005 2:58PM
De las dos forma es muy buena..Clickk.
La foto fue tomada desde un helicptero..
Bernie 17 2.2k
25 Feb 2005 3:34PM
I like the cloning out of the other people but would have kept the colour as it was quite nice. LOL...and that's from a staunch B&W fan.
You'll never please all the people all the time.
iansamuel 17 271 United Kingdom
25 Feb 2005 4:52PM
its alright in bw but I liked the yellow too. And why lose the people? I think it is too square, especially with the girl in the middle, rule of thirds, all that stuff. Am I making any sense? It's still a good shot whatever.
silvina 16 9
25 Feb 2005 5:09PM
Thanks everybody. Bernie, you are right, one can't please all the people all the time. Stu, interesting you perception of the B&W pic, maybe is because she is alone, and that's not usual in subway station. Different viewpoints are always welcome. Ian, in the color picture the people is there, but some members suggested me to lose them, to add to the sense of loneliness. I did it as an exercise, and I'm happy with the feedback that I'm getting from all of you, it's a good way to learn, from our own mistakes.
suleesia 16 176 Malaysia
25 Feb 2005 6:07PM
I am confused too, LOL
Nice work, Silvi.
covey 15 1.7k Ireland
25 Feb 2005 6:34PM
First picture was top class, I mean that.

This is how not to crop and present your image. It's not bad, but take's away the perspective, sense and focus of the original image.

banehawi Plus
16 2.3k 4174 Canada
25 Feb 2005 8:30PM
I prefer the B&W version Silvi, - theres an odd colour cast in the other one. I also think B&W can convey a starkness to a shot that supports the idea of loneliness.

Im not sure about looking into the camera, - perhaps looking away into the distance could convey loneliness better?

You might try a shot standing close to the tiled wall, - you can get great reflection there when the light is right. Member KADISU has a couple of interesting Toronto subway shots. And it is closer to the thirds composition rule, - which is not really a strict rule, but a suggestion!

I agree with previous suggestions that the lady on the opposite platform added something to the shot.

Well done, - and congratulations on getting so much dialogue going on Friday night.

Deez 16 7
26 Feb 2005 2:02AM
Ok just seen this which inturn made me look at the previous which i didnt see before so my thoughts; Im with the 'dont look at the camera' people. Its something that i personally dont like but especially so in this case when its supposed to convey loneliness. Looking at the camera lets you know there is another kind of hinders it.

I liked the person on the left in the previous but prefer this without the people at the far end and in b&w.

Great perspective i just dont like the look at the camera.
silvina 16 9
26 Feb 2005 4:34AM
I like it, another issue: to look or not at the camera? I never thought that my simple photo was so complex. As I said, different people, different viewpoints. She is looking like saying: What do you want, don't bother me, don't you see that I'm not in my best mood? (at least it was my intention).
Thanks for the suggestions, comments and advice, I didn't have that much feedback with my previous uploads.
pisau 15
26 Feb 2005 6:17AM
It's amazing how a change of colours can bring a different perspective. Personally i think by using B&W, u've brought up the mood of loneliness in this pic. I like it.

BTW, thanx for your nice comments. To answer your question, no matter how many times i've went for diving, i still feel a little scared down there. But it's good to feel it, coz it makes me more alert. TQ

silvina 16 9
26 Feb 2005 4:25PM
Thank you Pisau.
Ceciliat 15 6 Philippines
26 Feb 2005 5:15PM
Agree with Pisau using B/W brought up mood and sharpness of the pix. The transformation really impressive. I like it a lot.

Brilliant shot!!

silvina 16 9
26 Feb 2005 6:46PM
Thanks Cecilia.
johnjrp 16 432 5 Australia
26 Feb 2005 7:21PM
Prefer this one. The B&W brings out the detail. click. John
silvina 16 9
27 Feb 2005 4:06AM
Thanks John,
TonyA 15 11 Spain
27 Feb 2005 4:20AM
Me encanta tu foto en blanco y negro. Has logrado montar una gran discusin muy interesante y puede que te vuelvan loca con tantas ideas.

Para poner otro granito de arena al lo yo hubiese dejado la linea amarilla del borde del anden a color. Si algn da quiere que te eche una mano con Photoshop me lo dices.

Buen trabajo

silvina 16 9
27 Feb 2005 5:02AM
Muchas gracias Antonio por el comentario. Si, es cierto, tantas ideas es para volverse loca,ms que una foto parece un test. Un psiclogo se hara un festn, definiendo personalidades en base a las preferencias y sugerencias. Se podra hacer una encuesta:
Color o blanco y negro?
Clonar o no a la gente?
Borde amarillo, o no?
Mirar o no a la cmara?
Borde del andn amarillo o no?
Respecto a Photoshop, lo que quisiera saber como se usa es algo no estrictamente relacionado con la fotografa: como usar los vectors ( para hacer dibujos). S que tienen anchor points, pero cada vez que quiero usarlo, me salen unas lineas sin sentido. Alguna idea?
lovelylindax 16 16
27 Feb 2005 7:10AM
Great cloning Silvi - well done - like the b & w
Linda x
silvina 16 9
27 Feb 2005 8:00AM
Thank you Linda.
old timer 16 55 1 Scotland
27 Feb 2005 8:16AM
This is a super pic, Silvi, and I much prefer the B&W. You've done an excellent job of cloning, and ther's a much better sense of isolation.
TonyA 15 11 Spain
27 Feb 2005 8:27AM
Lo siento pero en le area de vectores no he trabajado nada en PS porque encuentro dicil trabajar con vectores y necesita mucha practica. Hay programas mas apropiados para trabajar con vectores como puede ser el Adobe Illustrator.

Para trazar una linea o curva con vectores has de fijar el punto de inicio con el raton y arrastrar para determinar su largo. Para darle curvatura selecionas un extremo y aparece otra linea que al moverla determina la curvatura de la lines.

Esta es una explicacin muy rudimentaria porque tal y como te dije antes lo he intentado alguna vez y me he rendido. Nunca use el manual para intentar aprenderlo.

Lo siento de no poderte ayudar en este aspecto.

silvina 16 9
27 Feb 2005 12:15PM
Thanks for your comment Jim. I was not sure about the cloning, so I'm glad that you like it.
silvina 16 9
27 Feb 2005 12:17PM
Antonio,gracias de todos modos por los consejos, seguir intentando. Encontr algunos tutorials en Internet, los voy a tratar de hacer nuevamente.
phiggy 18 7 United Kingdom
27 Feb 2005 3:30PM
Super shot.
StrayCat 16 19.1k 3 Canada
27 Feb 2005 4:37PM
I like it.
silvina 16 9
27 Feb 2005 4:53PM
Thanks Phil and Denny.
mlelond 16 2
27 Feb 2005 10:34PM
love the b&w - thanks for the comment on my sweety - she is 7 weeks old now and has only just begun smiling up a storm for us. - click
claret 16 49 England
28 Feb 2005 12:30AM
Works well in B&W and if I hadn't seen the colour version......... but for me it works better in colour.
silvina 16 9
28 Feb 2005 2:44AM
Thanks Marcel and Iaian.
kinfatric 16 550 9 Scotland
2 Mar 2005 1:08PM
Nice shot and good cloning work!
You asked where mine was taken, its in the North East of Scotland beside a small village called Rosehearty.
silvina 16 9
3 Mar 2005 4:07AM
Thank you Kin, you have nice pictures in your portfolio.
bengsays 15 13
6 Mar 2005 7:51PM
This shot works much better, in the other one you appear happy, this one does appear lonely, if this was taken as a "candid" i think it might work as well, maybe better?? very nice with the b/w though
silvina 16 9
6 Mar 2005 7:57PM
Thank you Ben, I think that the difference is due to the yellow color of the first one.
panda 16 5 1 England
9 Mar 2005 7:08AM
Well it certainly has caused a lot of interest and debate Silvi. Personally I prefer the colour version, it has more impact for me.

AlanMD 15 23
15 Mar 2005 5:31PM
Me encanta este foto. Felicidades che. Alan
silvina 16 9
15 Mar 2005 5:49PM
Thanks Phil.
Gracias Alan, acaso sos argentino?
carriebugg 16 65 England
2 Apr 2005 7:40AM
FAB picture - love it!

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