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Opinions sought - thank you!

By SteveNZ  
I'm in a bit of a quandary over this one - I've spent (too many) hours, on and off, over the last few days working on this image (learning Lightroom 4). So I'm reluctant to just give up and forget it.
The problem is... sometimes I look at it and like it, sometimes I don't.
I'd appreciate your comments - let me know if you think it works, or doesn't... and why. (If you can.)

Sometimes I look and see a nice, arty, big, chrome ball and then notice St Paul's is in the picture too. Which I quite like.
Other times, I know I was actually shooting St Pauls and then see the big chrome ball... which I don't particularly like, although I purposely ensured both were in the shot.

Perhaps that goes someway to answering my own question, but I'm still very keen to hear your comments Smile

PS: added V2 - original image.

Tags: Critique London St pauls Architecture lightroom 4

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Jasper87 Plus
11 2.7k 158 England
15 Jan 2013 7:59PM
I think your self-critique was right, is this an image of the ball OR St Paul's? The second ball is cut in half, and the movement of the girl is out of the frame which spoils the composition a little. What about moving to your left and capturing the image of St Paul's in the ball?

Dave
SteveNZ 12 4 5 United Kingdom
15 Jan 2013 8:20PM
Thanks dave!
Maybe I should try and de-emphasised St Paul's a little?
The blurry girl exiting on the left I really like in this image... or is that just me?!
Following your suggestion, I just tried enlarging the ball area in the original file - but can't actually see St Paul's; in its place is the reflection of myself taking the shot.
Very much appreciate your comment Smile
Cheers -- Steve

PS: the girl is fully within frame on the screen I'm viewing it on.
banehawi Plus
16 2.4k 4227 Canada
15 Jan 2013 8:42PM
One question. Is St Pauls precisely facing down this walkway, parallel, or is it on a street thats at an angle to this walkway? I want to figure out if the angle of the pavers is because you were shooting at an angle?



W
SteveNZ 12 4 5 United Kingdom
15 Jan 2013 8:53PM

Quote:One question. Is St Pauls precisely facing down this walkway, parallel, or is it on a street thats at an angle to this walkway? I want to figure out if the angle of the pavers is because you were shooting at an angle?
W



St Pauls was directly in front of me as I took the shot. That might be clearer in Version 2 (uncropped).
I also have shots from further back which might clarify its position relative to the walkway.
Cheers -- Steve
SteveNZ 12 4 5 United Kingdom
15 Jan 2013 9:07PM

Quote:One question. Is St Pauls precisely facing down this walkway, parallel, or is it on a street thats at an angle to this walkway? I want to figure out if the angle of the pavers is because you were shooting at an angle?
W



Uploaded V3 showing scene further back. Hope that helps.
Cheers -- Steve
banehawi Plus
16 2.4k 4227 Canada
15 Jan 2013 9:53PM
Hi Steve.


You didnt upload your exif data, so Im guessing this is a crop factor camera with a very wide angle lens. I also walked around using Google Maps!

The problem I saw with the first upload is that there were many planes competing for attention; the lines in the paving stones, the Cathedral, the leaning verticals, - a bit confusing. But with your last shot, I had a better idea, and whats compounds the issue for the first is a lot of lens distortion, including quite a bit of barrel (bulge) distortion, which when sorted out, leaves enough of the shot left to make a decent crop.

Ive uploaded V1 with mods done, and includes a little more contrast for the Cathedral, and a brighter foreground. Its a 5 X 7 aspect ratio

But, I think V3 could be the better shot, and applying the same lens corrections to this one, Ive uploaded mod2. This is a 10 X 8 aspect ratio. The frames are added in both to make up for the amount of image lost to cropping to sot out distortions.


What focal length did you use?



Regards



Willie
SteveNZ 12 4 5 United Kingdom
15 Jan 2013 10:22PM
Willie... you are a legend! Thank you so much!
Now that you have made it so clear, I agree with every point you make.
V1... I can now see I was also too intent on getting the girl in. Your version is better Smile
V3... I never even considered as a good shot. I like your version Smile
BTW, I was using Sigma set at 10mm.
I now feel I was too focused on certain aspects. I will learn from this.
Cheers -- Steve
cats_123 Plus
17 5.0k 30 Northern Ireland
16 Jan 2013 7:54AM
V1 has too many competing `targets' - Willie, of course, is the master Smile

just playing around in Lightroom...had to enlarge the mod, so it has lost a lot of definition Sad
Focus_Man 11 481 631 United Kingdom
16 Jan 2013 10:18AM
I like V3 the best but without the lady on the RHS.

I have uploaded a mod where I waited for the lady (bottom LHS) to pass and for the weather to improve as far as the sky is concerned.

Nice set of pics.

Frank
paulbroad 13 131 1293 United Kingdom
16 Jan 2013 1:14PM
This is going to show how subjectivity effects us all. After the technical bit - you cannot change the laws of physics, Jim!, we have the other bit. Do you like it? For me, v1. It is the most interesting angle with the silver ball well placed and the blurred girl an entry point. I would prefer her all in the frame though.

Paul
SteveNZ 12 4 5 United Kingdom
18 Jan 2013 8:35PM
Thank you all for taking the time to comment Grin And thank you for uploading mods.
Info taken onboard and looking forward to trying new versions, and learning from this.
Cheers -- Steve

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