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Perito Moreno glacier

By suejoh
i am working towards my LRPS and I wondered if I was overdoing the filters such as on this photo.
Any other critique gratefully received.

Just on the photo: It is a holiday photo and no tripod as we were with a tour group.

Tags: Argentina Glacier Landscape and travel Calafate by Sue

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Chinga Plus
12 112 3 United Kingdom
28 Apr 2018 1:02PM
Amazing to see... GrinGrin
paulbroad Plus
15 131 1294 United Kingdom
28 Apr 2018 1:03PM
It is a good holiday shot but not LRPS standard technically. I'm not a great fan of the Royal distinctions as they are too easy to fiddle, not that I suggest you would do that.

This image has tonal problems. Some burn out in the sky and mountains and a flatness in the glacier and foreground. It needs burning in at the top and a contrast boost at the bottom. Not always easy and often a need for graduated filters even with digital.

Over doing the filters? What did you use - something on the lens or in software.

paulbroad Plus
15 131 1294 United Kingdom
28 Apr 2018 1:24PM
By the way, you look to have several nasty dust spots on your sensor - top left. (Unless it's birds)

suejoh Plus
18 257 United Kingdom
28 Apr 2018 2:15PM
Thanks Paul. Yes I can see what you mean with the blown highlights - and the glacier did need a boost but we had to go with the group and so not at an ideal time of day with the light. I tend to keep bland in camera settings but maybe I should change that.

No I did not use filters in the field as I got left behind anyway taking photos and I did not want to take filters on and off. Processing I use camera raw and Topaz, usually Clarity.

Also I probably have dust spots on the lens or the camera - I have bought some cleaning stuff just now. The first place we went was Iguazu and I had to wipe spray off the UV filter constantly. I think the UV filter is ruined.
dudler Plus
19 2.0k 1966 England
28 Apr 2018 2:51PM
Hi, Sue -

Filters and effects are a matter of taste and fashion - I'd prefer something straighter, myself. There's an overall brown tinge to this which isn't appealing ot my eye.

The dust spots will be on the sensor, not the lens, and they will be more visible at small apertures than wider ones. Dust or minor marks on the lens will degrade constrast a bit, and may cause flare on against-the-light shots, but won't show up on pictures until you get to incredibly wideangle lenses...
banehawi Plus
18 2.8k 4333 Canada
28 Apr 2018 8:47PM
Do you have a version you can upload here without the use of Topaz?

Just click the Modifications button, then select upload, then select your non filtered version. Its really the only way we could comment on this being fully informed.

In my humble experience, I find Topaz to be a very destructive piece of software.


rontear Plus
19 23 9 England
28 Apr 2018 9:09PM
A good image for the qualification, be careful of filters used incorrectly they spoil the image. Try to keep your images as natural as possible ( unless you deliberately want creative !) Area's of no detail can result in a poor critique.
suejoh Plus
18 257 United Kingdom
29 Apr 2018 10:35AM
I have loaded the original picture and then the same picture with camera raw adjustments. The camera raw white balance adjustment was making the picture browner so I did not use that.
Thank you everyone
banehawi Plus
18 2.8k 4333 Canada
29 Apr 2018 3:44PM

In the original you uploaded, there was a manual white balance applied; do you know what was done?

suejoh Plus
18 257 United Kingdom
29 Apr 2018 4:12PM
I think the camera was set to cloudy white balance and then in camera raw I hold Ctrl and double click for the software to change the setting. That would be all.
dudler Plus
19 2.0k 1966 England
30 Apr 2018 7:17AM
Thank you for the original, Sue. Willie's done the business with his mod, I think.

There's a balance to be struck between what is technically correct, and what looks right: and using auto settings (in camera or software) won't necessarily get you to technically correct: it depends entirely on the way the software is designed. With the best will in the world, the software engineers can't anticipate every situation with the algorithms they write.

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