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Leaner pilot

By Sylvia2210
I was driving from the gym today and decided to re route.... I went past a flight training school and pulled over to take a few pictures

Tags: Transport Learning to fly Up up and away

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dudler Plus
15 861 1488 England
9 Mar 2018 7:22PM
Hi, Sylvia, and welcome both to Ephotozine, and to the Critique Gallery in particular.

I hope you're enjoying the site, and that you are finding plenty to occupy your attention. The Critique Gallery is a purposeful area - no votes or awards, but you will get feedback and suggestions. The more you can tell us, the more we can help you.

For instance, the sky colour looks quite odd here, and there's a bright outline to the 'plane - I suspect quite a bit of processing here. It would be interesting to see the original, and to understand precisely what you were aiming for with the picture.

Generally, shooting aircraft requires an increase in exposure - if shooting in an auto mode, plus one or two stops compensation. You've chosen a sensibly-high shutter speed to stop movement, though panning and a lower speed would allow the propeller to blur convincingly.

The plane is sensibly-placed in the frame, with slightly more space ahead than behind.

So - does this help? Are you pleased with the shot? Is there anything in particular on which you want comments?

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9 Mar 2018 7:53PM
Hi there, thank you for your critique.... I am a complete beginner and still trying to understand iso, f stops and shutter speed, let alone put them all together. I am also struggling with PS elements 2018.... I am going out each day and taking pictures of as many different things as I can in order to use as many different settings as possible. I appreciate you taking the time to comment, and did look for a way to post the original as an attachment, but couldn't find one
dark_lord Plus
15 2.3k 577 England
9 Mar 2018 8:45PM
Welcome from me too.

It's great that you're getting out and taking lots of pictures.
It's best to take it slowly and in small chunks in order to understnd things fully before moving on. For example, start with aperture and note the effect different apertures have on a subject. Spend a little time getign to grips with the relationship between aperture, shutter speed and ISO.
Then think about focal lenght, viewpoint and composition.

The same for Elements. It's a superbly capable program buit there's a lot to it.
Again, take things in small steps.
Initially just concern yourself with exposure, contrast and colouir adjustments, and cropping. Even for experienced photographers that covers the vast majority od adjustments they do, and sometimes not all of those are required.
Always work on a copy image especially while learning so that you can always go back to your original.

You can post the origina as a Modifiction - click on the Modifications tab beneath the image above and follow the instructions.

I suspect some processing as it looks like the sky has been darkened (possibly an Auto adjustment?) using a crude selection leaving the halo aropund the aircraft. I know white skies are unnattractive backgrounds for aircraft but they're better than having awhite line around the subject. By posting the original someone can have a go at ajusting the sky more accurately/
It does help if you say what you were trying to achieve or why you're not satisfied with the image as it is (and any processing you've done) so that we can provide appropriate suggestions.
dudler Plus
15 861 1488 England
9 Mar 2018 8:54PM
Hi again -

You can upload as yoru own modification - click the blue 'Modifications' button on the left below the picture, and then click 'Upload'. Simples!

The ISO/shutter/aperture thing is like the clutch and gears in a car: the big thing to conquer, after which it gets easier. If you shoot every day, post every day, and we'll comment every day - experience makes it all work!

I will also suggest a book - I am very envious of Henry Carroll, and I wish I'd written his book. It's called 'Read this if you want to take good photographs' - accessible, deals with the crucial bits well and simply, and includes some great pictures.

Elements is a good bit of software, but the initial learning curve is steep (again).

So go on experimenting. And please post, and say what went well, and what didn't...
9 Mar 2018 9:22PM
Hello again to you both, dudler and dark lord, can I thank you both for your advice. I understand that elements is very complicated, so I have downloaded a free software called faststone image viewer and seem to be able to cope with that one... baby steps I think. I shall certainly be going out every day and will post a picture every day where I can. I have been looking at some books and have purchased photography for dummies.. I shall look for the one you recommend. Now that you have pointed out the glare around the plane, I can see what you mean, and the sky being so white. But I did have difficulty getting the balance! Again, something to practice along with shutter speed, which is the main thing I struggle with. I have posted the original under modifications Smile
banehawi Plus
15 2.0k 4006 Canada
9 Mar 2018 10:34PM
Hi Sylvia. Welcome from me also. I arrived here late, so I have the benefit of seeing your original image.

Its great that you are interested in photography, and we can assist along the way.

You used auto exposure, - a safe place for many shots, except when shooting at the sky! All cameras, when pointed at the sky, whether cloudy or not, will underexpose the image; you can deal with this when you shoot by using Exposure Compensation/Correction, a small +/- icon on the camera; in general, use +1 when shooting the sky, although this one seems to need a bit more exposure. More exposure means allowing in more light.

I added a mod of you original, with more exposure and a few tweaks. I think looking at your original that youve done really well overall; you brightened the image and have good detail in the plane. The mod is not cropped as close. When you use Photoshop, or other image editors and use it "auto fix" type functions they can work well a lot of the time, so they are worth trying. Its not always the best result though.

Take a look at the mod and see what you think.

I have attached a LINK HERE that is quite good for basics of photography, and the same people also have a lot of tutorials on editing.


mrswoolybill Plus
12 1.5k 2054 United Kingdom
10 Mar 2018 8:06AM
I'm a bit late here, but welcome from me too!

You've had a lot of advice. I would just add - don't try too many things at once, concentrate on mastering one principle at a time.

You say that you are trying to photograph as many different things as you can. Much better to select one subject and explore it, using different apertures and angles, focusing on different points. Then compare the results, think about which images work for you and which don't, then try to sort out why.

Compare your settings for the different shots - I hope you know how to call up the data? You can do it with your camera, it will be via the big multi-selector on the back of the camera, probably the up arrow will give it. Once the image is on your computer, call up the thumbnail, right click on it, select Properties from the bottom of the right-click menu, then open Details. It's all there!

Two suggested exercises: Find a row of say plant pots, at an angle to the camera, then take a series of pictures from the same viewpoint using the largest aperture available (lowest F number), then say F16, and focusing on each pot in turn. Then compare the results.

Secondly position a vase in the beam of a table lamp, in a partially darkened room, and move it round to see how the light 'moulds' the form. Remember that effect when you come to photograph faces, flowers...

As mentioned above, when you point the camera into the sky the bright light will trick the camera's brain into underexposing. Check out the exposure compensation button, it's near the shutter button, it's marked +/-. Hold it down and move the thumb wheel to increase or reduce exposure. A plus 1 stop setting would be good here. Remember to zero it before you move on to anything else!

Elements - again I would suggest that you start with first principles. Straightening, cropping, then light adjustments. Photography is all about light! Get to understand the histogram, see how you can adjust it in Levels. Really get to grips with the light enhancement functions before you start playing with fancy effects.

And enjoy yourself!
mrswoolybill Plus
12 1.5k 2054 United Kingdom
10 Mar 2018 8:22AM
PS Thanks for entering into a conversation here - that's how the Critique Gallery works best!
paulbroad Plus
11 127 1282 United Kingdom
10 Mar 2018 8:50AM
Lots of good advice and this is the place to learn. You seem to have the right attitude - you realise you have a lot to learn and are prepared to listen. A pity many that just use the main gallery are not of the same mind!

Aircraft photography is quite specialist and not easy. Try and use shutter speeds of 1/500 or even a bit less with propeller driven aircraft to get prop blur - you can go as fast as you need with jets. The trick with lower shutter speeds is to pan the camera with the aircraft keeping it in exactly the same place in the viewfinder, then gently press the shutter release WITHOUT stopping the panning movement.

10 Mar 2018 6:36PM
Wow, lots of good advice here, thank you so much... I have copied all of your suggestions and will certainly follow all the advice Iíve been given... I realise that Iím tryI got to do too much and it makes perfect sense to work with one project at a time... I do struggle with the f stops. Iím just about to go in to the dining room, which is dark and contains motherís day flowers.... so Iíve attached my 50mm lens 🙈 Iíll have a play about with the manual settings and post my best picture for critique. I must say, I am really thankful that this site has so many people willing to give their time and valuable information. 😊

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