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Silver Y moths on a glass door

By Tianshi_angie
I saw these first from inside and thought I has a monstrous insect on the door but having opened the door and looked from the other side it was time to grab the camera. Because the door was glass wherever it went it gave me no 'good' background. So in processing I turned the background B&W leaving the moths in colour. Was this a good decision?

Tags: Moths Wildlife and nature

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Wanilson Plus
6 12 2 United Kingdom
29 Aug 2020 10:08AM
It works good for me Angie, brings out the Moths detail with no distraction from the background, well done Smile
chase Plus
15 2.1k 562 England
29 Aug 2020 10:33AM
I think you made a good choice Angie but this could perhaps do with a drop of lightening as I have done in my modification, just a simple levels adjustment.
Just seems a little OOF you could possibly have got a better focus by increasing the ISO a little and using F8.
I'm sure the more technically minded will be along to help with the exposure settings.

29 Aug 2020 11:36AM
I think Chase that if I had lightened the background at the time I had the moths separated from it, that may have been a good idea but lightening the whole I think has lightened the moths - which they aren't they are that dark.I thought at first that they were black. One of my problems in taking the photo was that they were positioned very low down on the window and given my back problems I couldn't spend too long - so there was only one shot!
dudler Plus
17 1.6k 1833 England
29 Aug 2020 12:15PM
Spot metering, Program, and -3 compensation may have made this quite complicated, exposurewise, Angie.

Janet's mod makes the most of it - so unusual!

Good to see you back here at EPZ.
29 Aug 2020 2:59PM
Thank you John - always with opportunities like this I react rather than take time - these opportunities have such a habit of disappearing! And I would have sworn that I had changed the mode to A. I don't think there is any way that in these situations I won't think but react. The trick will be when my reactions actually say 'think'! A big gap doesn't help as the camera then goes back to being 'strange' to me.
pamelajean Plus
15 1.5k 2211 United Kingdom
29 Aug 2020 4:22PM
Good to see you back in the Critique Gallery, Angie.

I appreciate your difficulty getting to the moths' level, and with a bit more time for composition, you might have been able to avoid the window frame altogether.

I like your idea of turning the background black and white, and I wouldn't have known that you had done this, so it has been done well. I did think that you could have lightened that background at the time of selecting it.

The moths do have some colour, and this is revealed better in Janet's modification. I don't see anything wrong with lightening something that you saw as dark at the time of shooting, so that the viewer can see the beauty of the specimens you are presenting. Could it be that they simply looked dark because there was very little light on them?

It looks to me that the bottom moth is better focused than the top one. You used f5, which should have given you adequate depth of field for both, but I think you took the shot so quickly that your focus fell lower than you intended. An alternative explanation is that your shutter speed wasn't fast enough and the top moth moved. Maybe they will be more obliging next time, and get together on the window at eye levelSmile.

Well done for capturing the pair "getting together".

29 Aug 2020 4:45PM
Thanks Pamela Jean. It was fairly early in the morning and another overcast day but I actually saw them as very much dark brown. - I have actually just experimented with Viveza - using the Control points first to put them on the moths to keep them as they were and then using them round the moths i.e. on the background, to lighten it. Unable to show you as the limit is 1 but it has worked quite well (just revealed more of the rain splashes on the door!).
chase Plus
15 2.1k 562 England
29 Aug 2020 6:09PM
Angie, you can upload your experimenting as a modification, just click on the modifications button and you have the option to upload one.
29 Aug 2020 6:20PM
Thank you Janet - I had no idea I could do that.
banehawi Plus
16 2.4k 4228 Canada
29 Aug 2020 10:21PM
Thats a good edit Angie.

Take the camera off spot metering forever, - you never need it.

30 Aug 2020 10:47AM
I will try to remember that Willie - along with the other adaptations that my mind is having some difficulty getting round. Thanks for the thumbs up to the edit.

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