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Chih Nan temple

By tom_earwaker
Taken in Taipei at a Taoist temple, bit of a different vibe to yesterdays Wink. Not much editing, only very small tweaks to levels/curves. Any comments or feedback appreciated as always. Cheers, Tom.

Tags: Asia Temple Taiwan Landscape and travel Taipei Worship chih nan taoist

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paulbroad 13 131 1293 United Kingdom
17 Apr 2018 8:18AM
Well seen and framed. Just a little burn out in places due to bright window light, but not too bad and does not ruin the shot. Might have given a full stop less exposure at the time to see what happened. I often shoot several versions of each frame if time allows at different exposures.

AlexE 4 190 United Kingdom
17 Apr 2018 11:11AM
Agree with Paul. I find bright window light very hard to work with - I could only think of turning down the sun's light intensity though Tongue

Really like the framing and the bg circle as well as the foreground one. Nice one.
banehawi Plus
17 2.5k 4253 Canada
17 Apr 2018 1:20PM
Yes, very nice. You framed it well, and tried to get it centred. Its not quite centred as you were standing a little off centre,m to though the circles are precide, the centre line here is a little to the left, so the mod compensates for this. I may well be also that the lens was not exactly square with the scene.

Reducing exposure more is a good suggestion from Paul, and I tried it in the mod; it does tone done highlights quite a lot (approx -1 used) and gives the scene a little more contrast and colour.


TanyaH Plus
18 1.3k 411 United Kingdom
17 Apr 2018 1:52PM
I can't quite work out whether there's a fractional rotation needed here, or whether my eyes are deceiving me because of the sloping tops of those structures in the centre of the room (kneeling pads/benches?).

So I've done a very quick comparison mod, where I've simply rotated the image by 0.5 degrees clockwise (well, it was technically 0.49, but why quibble!?) To my mind, it seems to correct 'something', and the whole image now for me doesn't feel like it's slipping towards the left.

But I don't know if I'm being visually fooled by all the various other angles within the building! Or maybe I should go to Specsavers?

pamelajean Plus
15 1.6k 2227 United Kingdom
17 Apr 2018 5:19PM
That's a lovely way to frame the temple, Tom, it gives the viewer an insight into its beauty, yet it feels slightly forbidden.

I've tried a simple modification. When I checked your perspective, it all seemed fine.
I used the burn tool on the very bright areas on the white cloth, then slightly brightened the image overall. The burning in helps avoid burn-out on brightening. I lifted shadows, reduced highlights and sharpened.
I cloned out the spotlight in the upper left because it kept pulling my eye.

As Willie says, it's not quite centred, and this was because of where you were standing. When I put a centre vertical line on your image, it didn't fall in the centre of the far circle. But adjusting that makes the space either side on the foreground "framing" circle unequal. I would personally leave it as it is because there isn't symmetry inside the temple and it tends to hide the fact that the circle at the back is un-centred.

17 Apr 2018 9:20PM
Thanks all for the feedback. I agree about the bright spots, I think I could have recovered a bit more detail in the highlights from the raw than I did. I hadn't spotted the off-centre-ness, but it is noticeable now you've pointed it out. Not sure about the rotation, for me looks a little bit sloping to the right in mod 2 (mainly the horizontal lines in the ceiling), could be a disortion/perspective thing?
pablophotographer 10 1.9k 409
17 Apr 2018 10:42PM

I think you are level correctly if I judge from the decoration lines on the ceiling Smile
I am not sure if i distinguish a reflection of a lens on the inner edge of the window furthest from you. I would have thought that the temple is open and accessible from both sides and there is no window stopping you entering from the opening closest to you. Could you please confirm if there was such a glass there?

I did two mods of which one shows the temple darker and one shows the temple brighter.
Red, one of the colours in the picture fades easily compared to other colours and from my memory visiting old buildings in the country the reds were most of the time pale rather than vivid. This being one of the oldest Taoist temples probably would have faded red decoration and columns. If they appear darker is because I reduced the light, because they are indoors, under shadow.

I hope you enjoy your trip to Formosa (or ROC or Taiwan) Wink
dudler Plus
17 1.6k 1868 England
18 Apr 2018 4:02AM

The first thing I thought was 'rotation' - the floor seems tilted, and the verticals don't seem quite right. I think a little upward skew on the right will fix the horizontals in the ceiling, starting from Tanya's mod.

The window doesn't disturb me, but the bright areas in the middle do: Willie's mod nearly gets there, but reprocessing from RAW will almost certainly sort it.

I wonder if a wider view, with the circle completed at the top would be good? 'Work the scene!'

Where there is real symmetry (I specifically exclude medieval cathedrals, because they are often a little askew), it pays to spend time getting the alignment absolutely perfect. It makes me appreciate an extra reason for using a tripod, when it's feasible to carry and erect it: handheld, I often find I lose one thing in perfecting another...

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